<p>I dont think any Americans want to go to York or Waterloo. While they might be somewhat acclaimed in Canada( Ontario ), its not what american recruiters have in mind when they ask for a well respected university.</p>
<p>and what about sauder, what do americans think about sauder?</p>
<p>this is a funny thread
pretty much everyone on here says mcGill</p>
<p>and on the U of toronto forum
most people say toronto</p>
<p>Brand name wise, McGill beats the crap out of U of T, however IMO both schools offer a good quality education.</p>
<p>so what about McGill vs Grinnell for departments like econ/political science/east asian studies? Also I might be wrong, but not a very large percentage of McGill students go to grad school, can anyone confirm this?What about applying to top US grad schools from McGILL, would good recs be hard to get due to large classes?</p>
<p>It's not hard to get recommendations if you take the time to make yourself known to your profs (long before you need recommendations). But it's up to you to take the initiative. Just being the quiet, good student isn't enough: it's important to show and discuss your interest in grad school.</p>
<p>folks at mcgill are better looking.</p>
<p>mgill's reputation isnt for nothing.
its a hard school. and its hard to do well, but its possible.
i mean, im in really hard classes, and i'm doing well. so dont feel like its impossible.
and a 3.0 from mcgill is better than a 3.0 from most other schools because its mcgill.</p>
<p>Funny, i always thought U of T had a better reputation than mcgill. U of T ranked higher than McGill by both the newsweek university ranking and by the Shanghai Jiao Tong University ranking. It also ranked highest for 12 years by MacLeans magazine, and only fell behind mcgill b/c it chose to withdraw from the ranking due to objection to ranking methodology.</p>
<p>UofT if you plan on staying in North America (particularly in the US), but McGIll has a lot more international appeal.</p>
<p>well McGill is ranked 21 in the TIMES rankings
and u of t is 28</p>
<p>either school though will give incredibly good and rigorous academics</p>
<p>Actually cfuc, quite a few universities that withdrew from the Maclean's ranking were either ranked higher or remained in the same place compared to the previous year. So I wouldn't say that UofT slipped in the ranking because of its objection to the methodology, that's just speculation.</p>
<p>McGill...though toronto university might not be bad I prefer McGill, I believe that the academics in thatcollege are stricter, not to mention it has an amazing campus and people there are really open!!... also, it's located in a nicer city...Toronto is too cold, too industrial...it lacks that charm...</p>
<p>McGill for sure! The school is much more international, and Montreal is has a nice European feel.</p>
<p>"Toronto is too cold"</p>
<p>Montreal is at least 10x colder</p>
<p>But yea, people in montreal are nicer. I've been living in Toronto for almost all my life now, and people here are just ruder n ruder n more cynical n more cynical everyday.</p>
<p>U of T makes McGill look like Williams or Amherst in terms of personal attention paid to students. Both will challenge you, and neither will help you much along the way.</p>
<p>"U of T makes McGill look like Williams or Amherst in terms of personal attention paid to students."</p>
<p>Some people have mentioned this, but doesn't U of T have the college system? I'm wondering, is it better to go to U of T with its college system (Trinity), or McGill, which is smaller but doesn't have the college system?</p>
<p>I will tell you right now, in Europe the University of Toronto is far better known than McGill. Also, grading at U of T is tougher than at McGill. However McGill apparently is better for parties and the "college experience" that so many American students covet. </p>
<p>For an American planning on going back to the US after, McGill is the place to go. (Most of the people making up the 'international' portion of the student body are just Americans from the north-east.) If you have aspirations for Europe or the rest of the world, then Toronto is definitely the name you'd want on your CV. </p>
<p>That said, I would still rather study at McGill than Toronto because I think it would be a lot more fun than constantly competing to be at the right of the very harsh curve used at Toronto. I have many friends at both schools and the general consensus seems to be that Toronto's grading is worse. So there's a trade-off, but ultimately they are both very good universities.</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that Toronto is better known than McGill in Europe. McGill is clearly more reputable around the world and even UofT students will admit to that. Even London's THES stated that McGill was the "most visible" of Canadian universities. A couple of years ago the Times of London made a top 10 list (or ranking) of international universities based on prestige, and McGill was the only Canadian university on that list at number 10. I'm not sure about the grading either. Although I'm an engineering student, my classes are very challenging and if UofT is indeed harder, I'd be surprised if it was by a large amount. I do agree though, that both universities are great. I might even go to UofT for grad school.</p>
<p>I think the key difference between McGill and UofT is symptomatic of a larger rivalry between Montreal and Toronto.</p>
<p>Basically, it can be summed up like this: Montreal is much better at marketing itself than Toronto, but Toronto when it comes down to it, has more substance behind it.</p>