Medical related majors and careers.

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<p>I'm some what interested in being a Pharm, how hard is it? How math intensive is it, because I know there will be a lot of chemistry. I'm not that confident in my math/chem abilities. What will I have to do as a college student? To enter pharm school I would have to get a 3.5 or high or an almost near perfect score on the PCAT. What happens if I major in something like chemistry and don't receive a 3.5? Am I left with a useless major? What's a good major to enter pharm school? I just want to know all the possible options, I'm not expecting everything to go as planned, as it never does in real life. I also do not have money and my parents can't support me.</p>

<p>My parents are pushing me to do something very easy and quick to study like radiology, and being an x-ray/radiological tech or something so I can get a job as fast as possible..no money. How useful is this, how long does it take to study, and what are the job outlook. I believe it takes 2 years to finish this program, and the pay is around 15 dollars. I could study four years, get a job, then study and work at the same time with something somewhat related with medicine, like radiology tech+business? What are overlaps between things like radiology?</p>

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<p>You can have any major as long as you take the prereqs. I think to be a Pharmacist it goes up to Calc II.</p>

<p>Nursing, lvn, xray tech, dental hygienist, etc. require at least three years of schooling (2 for the program, 1 for the prereqs). They all make pretty good money.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.explorehealthcareers.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.explorehealthcareers.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>You can have any major as long as you take the prereqs. I think to be a Pharmacist it goes up to Calc II.</p>

<p>What about the chem side of things? What major would meet the prereqs? So what happens if I fail and don't get the required GPA or something? My options for a major to enter pharm graduation school is probably chem or something, or biochem, but that's too much bio.</p>

<p>Nursing, lvn, xray tech, dental hygienist, etc. require at least three years of schooling (2 for the program, 1 for the prereqs). They all make pretty good money.</p>

<p>When you say 1 for the preqs, is this gened? Or this is gened+1 year for prereqs+2 for the program? </p>

<p>Does this apply to CA?</p>

<p>Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the help and the link you provided. :)</p>

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<p>Chem, bio, and biochem all cover the prereqs for pharm school.</p>

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<p>Chem, bio, and biochem all cover the prereqs for pharm school.</p>

<p>How expensive will it be to finish everything, up to the 2 years in pharm school? Which major would you recommend and what would I have to do in something like biochem/chem. I know bio has lots of labs and dissections. </p>

<p>So, what happens if I don't get the requirements to enter grad school, is this the risk I'd have to take? So, I'd probably be better off if I took biochem since it's useful by itself.</p>

<p>Thanks for the help sir!</p>

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<p>Me, personally I would take all my prereqs at a community college (especially if you're in CA). Most pharmacy schools accept them and it is WAY cheaper.</p>

<p>You don't even NEED a major to get into most pharmacy schools...you don't even need a bachelor's degree. Just 60-90 credits which will include all the requirements for the pharmacy schools you apply to.</p>

<p>If you want to get into the so called "allied health careers" it's more like 2 years for the prereqs and 2 more years for the program (and yes in CA and in all other 49 states).</p>

<p>Pharmacy school is 4 years (about 5 schools are 3 years)...</p>

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<p>Wow thanks a lot for the information, you seem quite knowledgeable, might I ask what you're doing?</p>

<p>Me, personally I would take all my prereqs at a community college (especially if you're in CA). Most pharmacy schools accept them and it is WAY cheaper.</p>

<p>You don't even NEED a major to get into most pharmacy schools...you don't even need a bachelor's degree. Just 60-90 credits which will include all the requirements for the pharmacy schools you apply to.</p>

<p>Wow really? Interesting, very interesting. Approximately how long will 60-90 credits take if you're a full time student? Wow I did NOT know this, this is very helpful information. You've enlightened me and I thank you greatly.</p>

<p>I believe 90 credits is like, 2 years or so. So assuming everything goes as planned, 2 years+4 years is 6 years in all.</p>

<p>How difficult is it and what would I be doing in pharm school, exactly?</p>

<p>So do those 60-90 include gen ed and such? >_< I don't know much about college stuff excuse my ignorance. </p>

<p>So I could just go to a CC, do the requirements, get into pharm school. Amazing, good too because I don't even have that much money.</p>

<p>Oh my god, you're great amazing help.</p>

<p>If you want to get into the so called "allied health careers" it's more like 2 years for the prereqs and 2 more years for the program (and yes in CA and in all other 49 states).</p>

<p>So 4 years in all. Would you recommend something like this? </p>

<p>I like how stable, secure, low stress, and high paying pharm is, but my parents want me to do something like this, get a average paying job then branch out by studying+working. Is something like x-ray tech/radiologist tech a good career?</p>

<p>Pharmacy school is 4 years (about 5 schools are 3 years)...</p>

<p>I'm in socal, I believe USC(private/too much money) is 3 years or so.</p>

<p>Thanks so much, I really appreciate your help! Thanks!</p>

<p>PS: I'm somewhat interested in business, do you know anything about consulting or consulting and medicine. It seems that you do.</p>

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<p>Without disagreeing with VSG, I'd advocate for a different route. Community college would be cheaper but you'd also have none of the advantages - pre-pharmacy advising, conditional acceptance, etc. and no place to go if you aren't accepted in the first round of applications, which is a very real risk. Admission to pharmacy school is quite competitive and often expensive if you have to travel for multiple interivews, take the PCAT several times and apply through PharmCAS. I think you may want to weigh the initial cost advantage against the odds of being accepted to the PharmD program and actually finishing in 6 years. </p>

<p>There's really a wide variation in the prereqs for pharmacy schools so you'd need to find a CC which offered everything. I'm not discouraging the idea, but it's good to know what you're up against going in. You can find detailed admission requirements for each school on the AACP website. A university which offers a conditional acceptance, and decent scholarships or financial aid, might be a better value in the long run. The average PharmD graduates with $80-110K of debt, but secures a high paying position quickly, so saving a few thousand up front while possibly postponing your degree and forgoing a year or two of that salary may not make sense.</p>

<p>Pharmacy is not a low stress profession and certainly not a low stress education! You should spend some time shadowing or talking with pharmacisits and get a clearer picture of what they actually do. Aside from the other benefits you mentioned, do you also like working with people from all walks of life, have patience, and enjoy fast paced and challenging work? I'm under the impression that many pharm techs in CA make $11-13 per hour and you don't go to school to secure that license. Taking the PTCE and spending some time as a tech might be an alternative and keep the 'rents happy! Also, if you go the 2 year and apply route, you'll certainly need some recommendations and experience.</p>

<p>My BIL is a consulting pharmacist and has a PharmD/MBA. He spent only a short time actually dispensing meds and found he didn't like it. Loves the management side and has had great success working for HMO's, nursing homes, etc.</p>

<p>Much more info to help you on these sites:</p>

<p>Pharmacy</a> Forums [ PharmD ] - Student Doctor Network Forums
[url=<a href="http://www.aacp.org/site/page.asp?TrackID=&VID=1&CID=29&DID=3022%5DAACP%5B/url"&gt;http://www.aacp.org/site/page.asp?TrackID=&VID=1&CID=29&DID=3022]AACP[/url&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

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<p>Yes, I do agree with sk8rmom with the advising and possibly the upper division biology requirements (if the school you apply to requires it). But most CCs in CA do offer ALL the prereqs and offer pretty good advising too (there are MANY 4 year colleges that have terrible advising, no exception with CCs).</p>

<p>I know one girl that did this and went to University of the Pacific Pharmacy School and did it in 6 years from a CC. She was making six figures at the age of 25. Many pharmacy schools have articulation agreements that show you which courses you need to take if transferring from a CA CC to a pharmacy school in CA (UC San Francisco and University of the Pacific are two).
Welcome</a> to ASSIST</p>

<p>I don't think pharmacy schools require interviews, but I could be wrong. And it's really no different than applying to college...LORs, app fee, a test (that many do not require), personal statement, and course requirements. Many schools do require you to shadow a pharmacist and get a LOR from them.</p>

<p>Pharmacy techs do require school and lasts about a year or two.</p>

<p>I totally agree with pharmacists NOT having a stress free life. I thought being a pharmacist would be easy, but after reading what some of them go through, I passed. The money is great, schooling is short, but I wouldn't be happy. I'm not necessarily the greatest "people" person either and would not stay calm with someone yelling at me and hearing some of the most ignorant statements people make. I wouldn't be able to take it! Go to studentdoctor and you'll see what I'm talking about...</p>

<p>Good luck with your choice and make your own decisions in life. Take what your parents are saying into consideration, but in the end do what you think is right for you and what would make you happy...</p>

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<p>Chem and biochem are both very useful majors in case things don't work out. Bio...not so much.</p>

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<p>My friend is going a different route, he's going 4 years at UCSD(the only college in Socal for pharm major) getting B.S. in Pharmacological Chemistry then somehow managing to finish graduate school in two years, is this even possible, or a good route? He said that doing a BS in such a major is a good base, but what can you do with this major, if you can't get into pharm grad school?</p>

<p>Without disagreeing with VSG, I'd advocate for a different route. Community college would be cheaper but you'd also have none of the advantages - pre-pharmacy advising, conditional acceptance, etc. and no place to go if you aren't accepted in the first round of applications, which is a very real risk. Admission to pharmacy school is quite competitive and often expensive if you have to travel for multiple interivews, take the PCAT several times and apply through PharmCAS. I think you may want to weigh the initial cost advantage against the odds of being accepted to the PharmD program and actually finishing in 6 years.</p>

<p>So you'd advise getting a degree first, or what realistic route could I take to do this? Any advice? Thanks a lot, you've really helped me. </p>

<p>Hmm..sadly..this is starting to look more and more unrealistic..I just don't have the funds or support from my parents in fact..I have to help them. :(</p>

<p>There's really a wide variation in the prereqs for pharmacy schools so you'd need to find a CC which offered everything. I'm not discouraging the idea, but it's good to know what you're up against going in. You can find detailed admission requirements for each school on the AACP website. A university which offers a conditional acceptance, and decent scholarships or financial aid, might be a better value in the long run.</p>

<p>Hmm..I can't even afford a Uni. I'll looked up AACP, and it seems the nearest non-private college UCSD, which is like, 2 hours away. T_T</p>

<p>There's a private one near me. Thanks for the site though, it's really helped.</p>

<p>The average PharmD graduates with $80-110K of debt, but secures a high paying position quickly, so saving a few thousand up front while possibly postponing your degree and forgoing a year or two of that salary may not make sense.</p>

<p>Hmm, so it's not necessarily better to get a CC education.</p>

<p>*Pharmacy is not a low stress profession and certainly not a low stress education! You should spend some time shadowing or talking with pharmacisits and get a clearer picture of what they actually do. *</p>

<p>Are there any requirements for this? I'd have to do this fast because I'm a senior..and I only have a couple of months left.</p>

<p>So what would my education include? Any possible information on this?</p>

<p>Aside from the other benefits you mentioned, do you also like working with people from all walks of life, have patience, and enjoy fast paced and challenging work?</p>

<p>Yes. I'm more worried about the actual getting through college/studying part.</p>

<p>* I'm under the impression that many pharm techs in CA make $11-13 per hour and you don't go to school to secure that license. Taking the PTCE and spending some time as a tech might be an alternative and keep the 'rents happy! Also, if you go the 2 year and apply route, you'll certainly need some recommendations and experience.*</p>

<p>Yes, but I've heard that they don't want inexperienced techs they usually want +2 years, I think I could study for about a month and get that license, and it would be a GREAT job for while I'm in college, it would be a great job, but I'm doubting I'd get hired. Huh, life is pretty crappy these days, especially in CA, though I'm not complaining.</p>

<p>My BIL is a consulting pharmacist and has a PharmD/MBA. He spent only a short time actually dispensing meds and found he didn't like it. Loves the management side and has had great success working for HMO's, nursing homes, etc.</p>

<p>I'm not sure what you mean by BIL. What other jobs could I do with things like management? Sure, dispensing meds all day may seem boring, but I think it's a good stable job. My parents don't even believe in this whole "do what makes you happy" stuff which is why they want a 2 year program. </p>

<p>*Much more info to help you on these sites:
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You're help is extremely appreciate, I will definitely check those sites out, and ask there.</p>

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<p>Is pharmacological chemistry a good major for this, it seems like it's an overkill, I looked all the courses and it's a lot.</p>

<p>Yes, I do agree with sk8rmom with the advising and possibly the upper division biology requirements (if the school you apply to requires it). But most CCs in CA do offer ALL the prereqs and offer pretty good advising too (there are MANY 4 year colleges that have terrible advising, no exception with CCs).</p>

<p>Holy crap..ASSIST is great..I did not know such a thing existed. Looking at all the prereqs right now, it's a lot for pharmacological chem.</p>

<p>But there's nothing here to see what prereqs I need to enter Pharm graduate school, isn't that what I would need? I'm a bit confused.</p>

<p>I know one girl that did this and went to University of the Pacific Pharmacy School and did it in 6 years from a CC. She was making six figures at the age of 25. Many pharmacy schools have articulation agreements that show you which courses you need to take if transferring from a CA CC to a pharmacy school in CA (UC San Francisco and University of the Pacific are two).
Welcome to ASSIST</p>

<p>I live in OC, so I think the closet/cheapest would be UCSD. Hmm...interesting. </p>

<p>I don't think pharmacy schools require interviews, but I could be wrong. And it's really no different than applying to college...LORs, app fee, a test (that many do not require), personal statement, and course requirements. Many schools do require you to shadow a pharmacist and get a LOR from them.</p>

<p>I see. Can I just ask any random pharmacist if I could shadow them? Even if I didn't have experience.</p>

<p>Pharmacy techs do require school and lasts about a year or two.</p>

<p>I see, thanks.</p>

<p>I totally agree with pharmacists NOT having a stress free life. I thought being a pharmacist would be easy, but after reading what some of them go through, I passed. The money is great, schooling is short, but I wouldn't be happy. I'm not necessarily the greatest "people" person either and would not stay calm with someone yelling at me and hearing some of the most ignorant statements people make. I wouldn't be able to take it! Go to studentdoctor and you'll see what I'm talking about...</p>

<p>Hmm..I see. I'll try to see how it is. The thing that most worries me is I'm not confident with my math skills/hard science skills, and I know I have to keep up a 3.5 GPA. </p>

<p>Good luck with your choice and make your own decisions in life. Take what your parents are saying into consideration, but in the end do what you think is right for you and what would make you happy...</p>

<p>Thanks a lot for the encouragement, it really helps, especially in a time like this...where..I am totally lost..and low on hope.</p>

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<p>On the ASSIST web site, it has the requirements to enter UCSF Pharmacy School because it is a public graduate school. I know UOP has agreements with most CCs in CA. Check out their web site too.</p>

<p>As for staying close to home...DO NOT plan on it if you want to go to pharmacy school. You need to apply all around the country and not just in CA to find a school that will accept you.</p>

<p>I don't know how it works with shadowing a pharmacist. You would have to ask around and check out studentdoctor as well.</p>

<p>As for being weak in science and math, I'm pretty sure a lot of pharmacists, doctors, nurses, dentists, etc. were weak in some area of math/science. You can't understand it ALL. Just make sure you get tutoring, instructor help, or whatever else you need to make it through.</p>

<p>I don't know how your friend is getting through pharmacy school in 2 years but pharmacy school is 4 years (about five are 3 years).</p>

<p>There is really no point in getting a degree if you want to become a pharmacist. It's a waste of time and delays you making money for another year or two. Just take your prereqs (4 year or 2 year school) and apply. If you don't get into pharmacy school, just continue onto getting your bachelor's degree and either apply again or graduate and find a job. Simple as that.</p>

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<p>Alot of the COP's also offer a BS in Pharmacology - my impression here is that they take most of the same coursework as a PharmD but don't do the rotations. People who choose this often work in labs, for pharmaceutical companies, as drug reps, etc. - they aren't eligible for licensing without a PharmD.</p>

<p>"So you'd advise getting a degree first, or what realistic route could I take to do this?"</p>

<p>I don't know enough about you - your stats, CA financial aid, etc. to give you much more than these ideas. What I'm saying is that a school that offers you some sort of transfer offer or conditional guarantee may be your best choice in the long run due to the very competitve process of getting accepted. If your CC's offer that, then that's terrific! I'm on the east coast and my D, who is also a senior and starting a PharmD program next year, has had pharmacy schools tell her they will not accept her community college credits for courses like government and economics. Some will also not take AP or CC credits for Bio and Chem. The AACP website lists the exact prerequisites for each school - look under "For Applicants and Students" for a list of Pharmacy School Admission Requirements. A little research upfront save loads of stress later on.</p>

<p>I wouldn't discount the private uni's without applying - my D's best merit offers (over $10K/year) all came from the private ones and, combined with her expected Pell, would nearly cover her tuition. Book money can come from summer earnings and a work-study job, so we're just left with room and board. That's alot but you may be able to live at home and she will probably try for an RA position after her freshman year. Our philosophy was to apply to as many schools as she thought she'd like (8 in our case), see who accepted for the program she wants (4 so far), narrow it down by financial aid and visits, and then she'll choose the school she likes and that we can afford.</p>

<p>As far as shadowing - talk with your guidance couselor. My D's HS offers a program so kids can shadow professionals - it's no credit, but the school basically just contacts locally to see if they could host and the length varies. She did 1-2 days in public health, radiology, and retail pharmacy but the hospital pharmacy let her stay 6 weeks!</p>

<p>"So what would my education include? Any possible information on this?"</p>

<p>Look at the curriculums and read the posts on Student Doctor. It's not easy but most of these kids are good in science and study regularly. Good study habits are crucial. Math is usually not beyond calculus - have you taken precalc? </p>

<p>BIL = brother in law.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>I am deeply sorry for not responding sooner, I really thank and appreciate both of your help, thanks a lot to both of you.</p>

<p>On the ASSIST web site, it has the requirements to enter UCSF Pharmacy School because it is a public graduate school. I know UOP has agreements with most CCs in CA. Check out their web site too.</p>

<p>University of the Pacific, I'm assuming. So wait, UCSD graduate school isn't public...I thought it was or it is and they just don't have the reqs?</p>

<p>As for UCSF, I'll check it out right now. Hmm..that's quite far, I hope I figure out some way to do this.</p>

<p>[As for staying close to home...DO NOT plan on it if you want to go to pharmacy school. You need to apply all around the country and not just in CA to find a school that will accept you.</p>

<p>Really? It's that competitive? I don't even know how I would pay for all this, if I recall correctly there are no dorms for graduates, only undergraduates.</p>

<p>I have another question, if assuming I went the CC rout, this is how it would be,</p>

<p>2 year GEN ED+2-3 years prereqs for pharm school+3-4 years of pharm school=totaling at 8 years? >_>? This is assuming everything goes well.</p>

<p>I hope I'll be able to keep a 3.5 GPA, I believe I need to keep it at that continually.</p>

<p>I don't know how it works with shadowing a pharmacist. You would have to ask around and check out studentdoctor as well.</p>

<p>Thank you, I will go to my counselor and student doctor and ask.</p>

<p>As for being weak in science and math, I'm pretty sure a lot of pharmacists, doctors, nurses, dentists, etc. were weak in some area of math/science. You can't understand it ALL. Just make sure you get tutoring, instructor help, or whatever else you need to make it through.</p>

<p>Well, I'm not extremely weak, I'm just not as smart as my 4.0 friends, as they all are like that, that's who I judge myself by. I'm somewhat average, but I checked for example the pharm degree(I'm not taking it, but it's similar classes) and it had a lot of chem/physics. I don't know if I could do higher level chem, or something like calc 3. I think I'd be able to do it. Thanks a lot.</p>

<p>I don't know how your friend is getting through pharmacy school in 2 years but pharmacy school is 4 years (about five are 3 years).</p>

<p>I see. He said he's planning to talk to the dean and summer classes, then again, you know more as you've been to college.</p>

<p>There is really no point in getting a degree if you want to become a pharmacist. It's a waste of time and delays you making money for another year or two. </p>

<p>I see. Thanks a lot for that.</p>

<p>Just take your prereqs (4 year or 2 year school) and apply. If you don't get into pharmacy school, just continue onto getting your bachelor's degree and either apply again or graduate and find a job. Simple as that.</p>

<p>This is where I'm interested, plan b, in case something goes wrong I want to plan.</p>

<p>If I don't get into pharm school, I continue on to getting what degree? What are some classes that overlap for the reqs for something like pharm school? I know a lot of majors overlap, so this is what I'm interested in. What can I graduate in and find a job?</p>

<p>Thanks a lot, I hope all these questions don't bother you.</p>

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<p>Alot of the COP's also offer a BS in Pharmacology - my impression here is that they take most of the same coursework as a PharmD but don't do the rotations. People who choose this often work in labs, for pharmaceutical companies, as drug reps, etc. - they aren't eligible for licensing without a PharmD.</p>

<p>I don't know what COP's are. Though, I understand you, it wouldn't be really useful and would waste time.</p>

<p>"So you'd advise getting a degree first, or what realistic route could I take to do this?"</p>

<p>*I don't know enough about you - your stats, CA financial aid, etc. to give you much more than these ideas. *</p>

<p>I know I would be eligible for financial aid, as we don't make a lot of money, at all. >_<
My stats aren't that good because I had to deal with a lot of problems in high school.(Immigrant)</p>

<p>I'm a minority, my parents are educated lawyers but they can't help me because they didn't get their degrees here.</p>

<p>What I'm saying is that a school that offers you some sort of transfer offer or conditional guarantee may be your best choice in the long run due to the very competitve process of getting accepted.</p>

<p>I see. I know we have a program here called, TAG or something. I would need to ask and research about this. Thanks for that. I would have to ask the CC, or the college or the councilors for this information.</p>

<p>Transfer</a> Admission Guarantees</p>

<p>If your CC's offer that, then that's terrific! I'm on the east coast and my D, who is also a senior and starting a PharmD program next year, has had pharmacy schools tell her they will not accept her community college credits for courses like government and economics.</p>

<p>o_O Hmm..So I need to physically ask the UC/Colleges, thanks for that information. Wow, you're a great mom, you seem to have really researched this. :)</p>

<p>Some will also not take AP or CC credits for Bio and Chem. The AACP website lists the exact prerequisites for each school - look under "For Applicants and Students" for a list of Pharmacy School Admission Requirements. A little research upfront save loads of stress later on.</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://www.aacp.org/site/page.asp?TRACKID=&VID=1&CID=1667&DID=9619%5DAACP%5B/url"&gt;http://www.aacp.org/site/page.asp?TRACKID=&VID=1&CID=1667&DID=9619]AACP[/url&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

<p>It's this correct?</p>

<p>School Admission Requirements- 9/8/2008 (PDF - 13933kb)
2-page narrative that includes General Information, Curriculum, Admission Requirements, and For Further Information for each AACP member institution</p>

<p>This one?</p>

<p>Also, for this search, under First Year Enrollment in Pharmacy Program, that number is the number of credits, correct?</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://www.aacp.org/issi/membership/survey_psar.asp?CID=104&TrackID=&TrackID&TrackID=%5DAACP%5B/url"&gt;http://www.aacp.org/issi/membership/survey_psar.asp?CID=104&TrackID=&TrackID&TrackID=]AACP[/url&lt;/a&gt;]
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I wouldn't discount the private uni's without applying - my D's best merit offers (over $10K/year) all came from the private ones and, combined with her expected Pell, would nearly cover her tuition. Book money can come from summer earnings and a work-study job, so we're just left with room and board. That's alot but you may be able to live at home and she will probably try for an RA position after her freshman year. Our philosophy was to apply to as many schools as she thought she'd like (8 in our case), see who accepted for the program she wants (4 so far), narrow it down by financial aid and visits, and then she'll choose the school she likes and that we can afford.*</p>

<p>I see. The problem is I don't have 4.0 grades, so I doubt I would get into those straight out of high school. I'm assuming your daughter is going to a University. However, after I finish the reqs, and prove that I have a high grade, will I get these same offers or what?</p>

<p>As far as shadowing - talk with your guidance couselor. My D's HS offers a program so kids can shadow professionals - it's no credit, but the school basically just contacts locally to see if they could host and the length varies. She did 1-2 days in public health, radiology, and retail pharmacy but the hospital pharmacy let her stay 6 weeks!</p>

<p>I see. I'm going to do that. Amazing, 6 weeks.</p>

<p>"So what would my education include? Any possible information on this?"</p>

<p>Look at the curriculums and read the posts on Student Doctor. It's not easy but most of these kids are good in science and study regularly. Good study habits are crucial. Math is usually not beyond calculus - have you taken precalc?</p>

<p>I was supposed to take it this year, I didn't. I'm fairly good/average in math. However, if you're not good in math than you're not good in chemistry and physics, since that's all they are.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Thanks a lot! :)</p>

<p>I'm going to save this whole topic..lots of useful information.</p>

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<p>Bump.</p>

<p>I hope someone sees this.</p>

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<p>COP = College of Pharmacy</p>

<p>The AACP School Admissions Requirements will give you a short summary of each COP and their application and prerequisite requirements. Useful if you know which schools you're looking for, but I believe they're in order by state:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.aacp.org/Docs/MainNavigation/InstitutionalData/9354_Narrratives.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.aacp.org/Docs/MainNavigation/InstitutionalData/9354_Narrratives.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The second link you gave will lead you to a search - just change the state to CA and it will give you a list of the COP's there and links to their websites.</p>

<p>:I'm fairly good/average in math. However, if you're not good in math than you're not good in chemistry and physics, since that's all they are.:</p>

<p>Listen, my D does have a 4.0 but it's not because she's naturally "good" in math/sci - in fact her strongest aptitude is probably history/english. At one point she was in remedial math and went to a math tutor. But she developed the habit of studying every day, going in for extra help as soon as she needs it, and doing problems until she understands each concept. Perseverance can trump "natural ability" and I've seen alot of "smart" kids drop out of college, and honors math, because they don't have self-discipline. </p>

<p>Live21, it seems like you're asking us for ideas of what jobs you could get with a similar BS but we don't know what you'd LIKE to do! When you say, "Though, I understand you, it wouldn't be really useful and would waste time.", I'm not sure what you mean. Drug reps make a very good salary, as do many pharmaceutical chemists and they're very different careers. Do you mean you wouldn't like the work and, if so, why? The problem is that we don't know what YOU see yourself doing and being happy and successful at. Choosing a career by salary is usually a setup for disappointment. In other words, if you don't like alot of sciences - chem, bio, anatomy, physiology (which is a huge part of pharm btw), and aren't focused on being able to interact with and help sick people, PharmD is probably not a winning choice. I don't want to discourage you but these things are extremely important and will ultimately be the test of whether or not you can make it through 6 years of schooling and rotations.</p>

<p>The intro chem, bio, and precalc/calc would be requirements/electives for many majors anyway. Alot of people don't know what they want to do when they first start college and many people think they know and then change their minds. It's perfectly okay and normal to take your time to decide what you want to do with the rest of your life. Sometimes it's important just to leave yourself open to possiblities. I realize this may not be the way your parents look at things but there WILL be an event, a course, or a person that will "flip the switch" and you'll find yourself drawn to an area of study above all others. Why don't you find a college you would like to go to, maybe one with an exploratory program, and see what feels right? Taking an extra semester or two is nothing compared to the rest of your life!</p>

<p>As far as making grades go, I would take a look at what the kids say about their profs in the courses you'd take - ratemyprofessor.com would be a place to start.</p>

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<p>I see, thanks for the help, I love the sciences, but sometimes, you have to play with the cards that you are given. I'm by no means bad, I'm just average, or above average, I often rate myself with my friends, who are the top 10 students in the school, which is why I say average.
Thanks for all the help!</p>

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<p>"My parents are pushing me to do something very easy and quick to study like radiology, and being an x-ray/radiological tech or something so I can get a job as fast as possible..no money"</p>

<p>... and why do you want to do something that your parents are pushing you to do?</p>