<p>So my HS GPA was 3.2 (at the end of high school...including an extenuading circumstance/health issues (that I will NOT share with the college) that occured during the second semester of high school; got a few Cs because of this)
new SAT- 2000
great extra-cirrics; presidents of several clubs and a few awards and an internship in congress</p>
<p>Right now I go to Grinnell, and received a 3.67 GPA. First semester freshman.</p>
<p>I want to transfer to The College of William and Mary and UVA. What do you think of my chacnes?</p>
<p>If your grades at high school were affected because of health issues, I would definitely explain that in my essays, if I were you. The College of William & Mary might be possible college for you. I say, try it out...</p>
<p>Do you require a high school transcript or test scores? </p>
<p>Yes, a high school transcript is required to apply as a transfer student. If you have a GED, you will need to make a copy of the certificate for your file. If you have completed less than one full year of college course work when you apply, you must submit SAT or ACT scores unless you have been out of high school for more than five years. Test scores listed on the high school transcript will be accepted. </p>
<p>Do you have a minimum GPA requirement?
The admission committee prefers to see academic achievement at the 3.6 level or higher, but considers other factors such as strength of curriculum. If a course has been repeated for a grade, both the original grade and the grade earned in the repeated course will be included in caluculating the student's GPA.</p>
<p>Is there any reason why you wouldn't want to share why you did bad in HS? If you don't give a reason, colleges will tend to think you were just lazy, and as good as it is you've made an improvement, if you've had something bad happen and you've pulled through it, it's much better in the eyes of the adcom.</p>
<p>if you're IS for UVA then you have a good chance, but you're HS GPA might keep you out and they might ask you to complete another year and then apply</p>
<p>if you're OOS then its going to be extremly tough because they look 50/50 at HS and college GPAs, and you're HS stats are too low, and your college GPA is a little above average, but probably below average for OOS</p>
<p>If you're applying after one year at Grinnell, they'll be viewing your HS materials and weighing them heavily, so whatever reason you had that overrode your low HS GPA and got you into Grinnell is pretty important for those new schools to know.</p>
<p>Grinnell is a very reputable school. I think you're in at W&M (granted you actually explain to them as well why you had a low GPA) and have a good shot at UVA. </p>
<p>J/w...why are you leaving Grinnell? I was considering applying there.</p>
<p>i'm leaving grinnell because it's way too liberal for me. i consider myself a strong liberal...but grinnell is just ultra far left wing liberal.</p>
<p>I highly doubt the majority of students getting into UVA have a B average (a 3.0). Washington University in St. Louis recommends applicants from 4-year universities have a 3.0, but do you really think those are the ones getting in? You will find that at top universities, students must have much more than what the school asks for or requires in terms of GPA.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is, W&M and UVA probably have a very similar applicant pool, of which UVA accepts a smaller percentage. </p>
<p>And if this is going to turn into a W&M vs. UVA debate, I'm not interested. I stand by my assertion that the OP is more likely in at W&M than UVA.</p>
<p>Based on each schools website, a 3.3 transfer student would probably apply to Va and not W&M. Therefore adding more applicants and thus a lower admit rate. </p>
<p>Dont be so emotional when somebody calls you out for making an over the top broad statement without appropriate facts.</p>
<p>I see your point. I still disagree. UVA, as the flagship campus, likely attracts more high-quality applicants, both in-state and OOS. I guess we'll see how the OP does.</p>
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<p>Eh? Did my post convey emotion? I'm just not interested in a debate over which school is better - which it sounds like you are making it.</p>
<p>EDIT: Just for the record, I checked USNews out. It turns out the minimum required GPA at W&M is a 3.0. So the argument that someone with a 3.3 would apply to UVA and not W&M doesn't hold up.</p>
<p>Brand- you have a fundamental lack of understanding in the difference between the two institutions. The state of Virginia is unique in that it has two colleges that are state supported that are the best in the country. Most other states have a"flagship" ie(michigan vs msu/ Texas vs A&M etc..) but that is not the case between UVA and W&M. </p>
<p>W&M is the best public college in America with an undergraduate focus. UVA is on par with Michigan and Cal for the best state-research university. It is a fluke of history that W&M is even a public school now and has much more in common with Brown or Dartmouth than with UVA.</p>
<p>Im not comparing the two b/c they are apples and oranges but UVA doesnt automatically attract "more high quality applicants". Compared to Va Tech, yes. To W&M?; dont make me laugh.</p>
<p>You made the argument that W&M attracts better (higher GPA) applicants here:</p>
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<p>which is incorrect, as I've noted here:</p>
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<p>Casting aside any predispositions you or anyone else may have towards these schools, it seems apparent that there is no evidence to suggest that they do not receive similar quality applicants and UVA is forced to turn away a higher percentage. Thus, again, I state that it is my opinion that the OP will have a better shot at William and Mary than Virginia.</p>
<p>I am not going to continue to debate percentages with you. It is clear that you are offended by the fact that I compared the percentages and suggested that of these two peer institutions, W&M accepts a higher percentage of its applicants and is thus easier. At that point, you tried to argue that W&M is ultimately more difficult (or just as difficult) to get into based on GPA requirements, at which point I proved you incorrect. </p>
<p>If you are going to continue to make incorrect and somewhat offensive statements such as:</p>
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Brand- you have a fundamental lack of understanding in the difference between the two institutions
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<p>and refuse to acknowledge the refutation to your argument that I provided above, I am through debating this topic with you and suggest we let the thread get back to its original purpose.</p>