I decided on having my boys get HPV shots after Michael Douglas story. LoL
But then, I forgot about the series so they are getting the 2nd shots in a year rather than in 4 months. X_X
After toddler years, it is difficult to remember when more shots are needed within a year.
We are seeing our pediatrician in a week and will hear what she thinks. Glad to find this thread although I am getting a headache reading it through. If they have menin B shots, boys will get them. S17 will have a year in case I miss the series again.
I vaccinated my youngest daughter with Menactra at age 2 and then recently gave her a booster at age 8. Also vaccinated everyone in the family with the Trumenba vaccine as well as Menactra. It was an expensive endeavor. However, itās cheaper than the lifelong consequences of a bacterial meningitis infection.
S had the first of two MenB (Bexsero) shots on Friday. It was optional but suggested. The one thing Iād note - several people said that the immune response to this one is often greater than from other vaccinations. His arm really hurt later on Friday, and by Friday night he had a fever and chills. Yesterday was pretty much a wasted day - other than a brief excursion with friends in the morning, he slept all day, feeling achy and feverish. Heās fine today. Heāll get the 2nd shot while heās at school, though, and weāre hoping that the reaction then is lessened. He was one miserable kid yesterday.
Still glad we did it, but I wasnāt expecting that.
By the way, saw someone post about HPV shot above. There is a new version that protects against more strains of HPV. D never finished the series she began so is now starting the new HPV shot that she will complete. Sheās starting it prior to turning 26 so insurer says theyāll cover 100%.
I hadnāt heard adults are supposed to get the meningitis vaccineāthought it was college students because they live in dorms and other close settings. In any case, none of our docs have mentioned anyone else in our extended family getting the vaccine; I see one of my docs later this week and will ask him.
Iām making Mr R get one because he never got it even though heās 25 and married. You just never know what could happen and itās not going to hurt so why not protect yourself and others as much as possible.
It is not correct to say ā66% effective.ā Thatās like saying 66% pregnant. Either it produces an immune response (effective) or it doesnāt (not effective). What the study was saying was that 34% OF THE SUBJECTS did not have an immune response to one of the strains that the vaccine was predicted to protect againstāAND that strain was the same/similar to the outbreak strain in Princeton. This outcome is NOT the same as saying the vaccine is 66% effective.
OF NOTE: Even if this vaccine produces no immune response to one strain (of several) in a percentage of people, it is still very worthwhile from a public health perspective because the more people who are vaccinated, the less the bacteria will circulate. Plus, there is still protection against the other strains in the vaccine.
Agreed @brantly. Thatās what I was trying to say in the main part of #179 but did repeat the use of the inaccurate term āeffectivenessā at the end.
I will encourage S to get the HPV vaccine but heās beyond the age I can force him to do much of anything. I will encourage him to get the newer vaccine that protects against more strains of HPV.
S received 1st dose of Trumeba 2 days ago. Arm was really sore, fatigue and small grade fever but doing well todayā¦ Even though Bexsero was in stock but only for people whose insurance would not cover shots so we did Trumeba. Sounds like the # of doses for T could change in Sept to 2 instead of 3. S gets the 2nd HPV shot in Aug.
S received 1st dose of Trumenba today. I will report more if it worsens but his arm was immediately sore (felt like on fire.)
He also received 2nd dose of HPV. - I donāt think he would like to switch to the new one. I did not read this thread before going to the doctors, so I did not know about the new one.
Doctor also recommended and gave a regular meningitis booster, MCV4 due to a recent local college outbreak.
I really donāt understand why parents believe that vaccine is a magic bullet, that would prevent the disease. Lots of vaccines have limited success and protect only part of the population. Usually, the healthiest.
Good luck, if you want your child to get a vaccine. But I certainly understand people, who donāt want to vaccinate their kids. Hello, many doctors opt out of vaccines for themselves and their children.
Actually, vaccine may produce an immune response (being effective), that is not sufficient to protect your body from the disease. In other words, there is a huge difference between the ability to produce specific antibodies and the ability to protect against the disease.
<āAll students who were tested had an immune response to at least one strain contained in the vaccine, but a third didnāt have any response to the outbreak strain.ā>
Cool. Really. If it would be my child, I would be strongly against this type of medical experiments.
@californiaa
Letās say hypothetically a vaccine makes 60% of the population perfectly immune to a dangerous hypothetical infectious disease called āX.ā 40% of people get no direct benefit from the vaccine. Thereās no way to predict whoās in which group. Hypothetical vaccine is only harmful to a very tiny group of the population (just like real world vaccines).
It would still be really ridiculous to deny the benefits of such a vaccine, because thereās still herd immunity. If everyone gets vaccinated, then 60% of the population is not only safe from the life-threatening symptoms of X, they also arenāt coughing at the unprotected people an transmitting X.
Refusing the vaccine for X puts yourself AND others at risk. I think thatās irresponsible.
āHello, many doctors opt out of vaccines for themselves and their children.ā
I donāt know who started this rumor but itās not true. I have been reading it a lot lately, but in actuality ALL of my friends who are doctors (and yes I have a fair amount of Doctor friends) vaccinate their own kids and encourage me to vaccinate mine. How easy it is to forget diseases that used to ravage communities prior to the development of vaccines.
Vaccines work on a population basis. It is a public health measure. It may not work in a given individual, or immunity may wear off in a given individual, but when more people in the population are immune, the likelihood of an outbreak is reduced.
Itās like sanitation. Thatās another great public health advance. You can choose not to avail yourself of modern sanitation methods. If you are the only person in a 100-mile radius who lives that way, chances are youād be fine. If, however, half the population in that same 100-mile radius stopped using modern sanitation, youād have a crisis on your hands. Thatās how public health measures work.
@californiaa, for someone who thinks that science is the most important thing of all, and that colleges should admit based on quantitative scores, you sure seem to be a science denier. Vaccines are an amazing success story, and the only people who donāt believe in them are idiots who donāt believe in mainstream science.
I am not a science denier. I do believe in science, not it the miracles. Vaccines are not working on everyone. They do have lots of side effects. They are under-studied. They make tons of money to pharma companies, that distribute them. Side effects are severely underreported.
Do I vaccinate my kids? Yes, I do. But not with every vaccine. Certainly, not with a vaccine that has less than 70% success rate.
Please, vaccine is not a miracle that works for everyone.
