<p>which one would you chose and why?</p>
<p>Michigan because I’ve never heard of mcgill…</p>
<p>I would choose which ever was in the country in which I lived… So Michigan.</p>
<p>At McGill you will meet students who are aware that the world does not end at the Michigan (or US) border. You will also learn that not all great universities are members of the NCAA</p>
<p>^^^^Yeah sure. I’m also sure that you think nothing happens of importance west of the Hudson too. See, I can generalize as well.</p>
<p>I’m an international student, and I can tell you straight away that UMich has MUCH MUCH higher reputation than McGill. Unless you intend to reside in Canada, go to American universities.</p>
<p>“At McGill you will meet students who are aware that the world does not end at the Michigan (or US) border. You will also learn that not all great universities are members of the NCAA”</p>
<p>Yeah but you run the risk of running into east-coast elitists who weren’t good enough for the Ivy League but justified it to themselves and their families by saying they wanted to go to a foreign university because they’re more “worldly” than their peers.</p>
<p>^^^^Basically what I said. :-)</p>
<p>Sorry guys. I didn’t mean to offend Wolverine pride. I was basing my comment on the previous poster who had never heard of McGill (Ann Arbor is not that far from Canada). Also based on a previous poster who recommended that the OP stay in his own country. </p>
<p>Many students scramble to do a “study abroad” option yet would never consider going to school abroad.</p>
<p>Ouch, well I’m sorry I could never afford the gas or plane tickets to travel to another country let alone the costs to attend a school out of the country.</p>
<p>My sister went to McGill. It is a great university in an awesome city. This said, Michigan edges McGill out in most respect;</p>
<p>1) Better facilities (Michigan buildings are much better maintained and equipped)
2) More resources (Michigan’s endowment is almost 10 times larger than McGill)
3) Better on-campus experience</p>
<p>If money is not an option, I would recommend Michigan over McGill.</p>
<p>Both are great universities and with careful consideration of your choice I’m sure you would be happy at either or. Though I have been well informed about the different " college experience" one will have at an American university to a Canadian and other schools outside of the United States. I also would emphasize that although English is the language for McGill university, McGill is located outside Montreal which is one of the largest French speaking cities ( largest french speaking city in North America). So if English is your only/ most fluent language it may be more comfortable to attend University of Michigan. If you plan to work/ live in Canada why not McGill, if you plan to work/ live in the United States why not University of Michigan…
If your seeking graduate school after undergraduate also consider how each are affordable.</p>
<p>I’d pick McGill. The university is so much more prestigious than Michigan. Its average scores and grades are on par with the Ivy Leagues. Its the obscure liberal arts college I’ve always dreamed about!</p>
<p>Meanwhile, all Michigan has to look forward to is its annual slip in USNWR rankings.</p>
<p>USNWR has U of M ranked 27th in the country and 19th in the world…yeah, you shouldn’t take the rankings too seriously…</p>
<p>“I’d pick McGill. The university is so much more prestigious than Michigan. Its average scores and grades are on par with the Ivy Leagues.”</p>
<p>I call *****<strong><em>. Infact, I scream </em></strong>***.</p>
<p>[Admissions</a> standards for previous years](<a href=“http://www.mcgill.ca/counsellors/us-counsellors/admissionsstandards/]Admissions”>http://www.mcgill.ca/counsellors/us-counsellors/admissionsstandards/)</p>
<p>“I’d pick McGill. The university is so much more prestigious than Michigan.” </p>
<p>I have not seen a single survey or poll or ranking that would suggest that McGill is "so much more prestigious than Michigan.</p>
<p>“Its average scores and grades are on par with the Ivy Leagues.”</p>
<p>sentiment, McGill and Michigan have very similar admissions stats…and yes, both have selectivity that match up nicely with their Ivy counterparts:</p>
<p>AVERAGE CUMMULATIVE HIGH SCHOOL GPO:
Michigan: 3.75
McGill: 3.7</p>
<p>% OF FRESHMEN GRADUATING IN THE TOP 10% OF HIGH SCHOOL CLASS:
Michigan: 92%
McGill: 90%</p>
<p>% ACCEPTED:
Michigan: 45%-50%
McGill: 45%-50%</p>
<p>AVERAGE SAT:
McGill: 2060* (690 CR, 680 M, 690 W)
Michigan: 1980 (640 CR, 690 M, 650 W)</p>
<p>AVERAGE ACT:
McGill: 30*
Michigan: 29</p>
<ul>
<li>Only 10% of McGill students take the SAT or ACT (as opposed to 100% at Michigan), most of which are American or international applicants. Michigan’s average SAT for OOS and international students is higher than the average overall SAT/ACT score.</li>
</ul>
<p>[Admissions</a> Profile](<a href=“http://www.mcgill.ca/es/profile/]Admissions”>http://www.mcgill.ca/es/profile/)</p>
<p><a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning;
<p>“Meanwhile, all Michigan has to look forward to is its annual slip in USNWR rankings.”</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you are correct here. Thanks to its descriminating formula, Michigan, and other public universities, will drop a little more in the USNWR undergraduate rankings before levelling off at #30 or so. Still, using the USNWR formula, McGill would probably be ranked somewhere between #25 and #40 too. </p>
<p>Like I said above, both are great, but Michigan has more resources, better facilities and a nicer campus. Academics, prestige and selectivity are pretty much even at those two awesome schools.</p>
<p>Okay, my perception of McGill turned out to be waaaaaay bloated. I somehow just expected the Harvard of Canada to be better than that, even if it was in… well Canada. You guys are right. Michigan is a wiser decision for a US student.</p>
<p>^^^I’d say it’s more your perception of Michigan that is incorrect. So many people on CC are total slaves to USNWR ratings.</p>
<p>OOPS - I MISSED THE SECOND PAGES OF POSTS WHEN I WROTE WHAT’S BELOW. HOWEVER, MICH IS NOT ALWAYS A BETTER CHOICE FOR A US STUDENT IF THE STUDENT IS OUT OF STATE, BECAUSE MCGILL WILL BE ABOUT $20,000 A YEAR LESS EXPENSIVE.</p>
<p>Ok, Qwerty, in fairness those are admission standards, not actual admit stats. In other words, don’t even apply if you have lower scores. Michigan’s admission standards would be about the same. They’ve also been known to admit a few students with LOWER stats than the standards. But I’m not going to argue the merits of McGill based on stats, and obviously, since my son is at Mich and could attend McGill for virtually NOTHING, we love Mich.</p>
<p>That said, another factor to consider is that there isn’t (or didn’t used to be – haven’t lived there for 10 years) the level of grade inflation in Canada that there seems to be (in some districts or schools anyway) here. Eg. there just seem to be more “A” students in the U.S. than in Canada, yet I’d stack the rigor of most Canadian programs against any here. Of course, that’s program specific, but I did directly see that my “regular” student was able to do well at a gifted talented program here that, while awesome, didn’t always seem as rigorous in some subjects as those I know in Canada (nb. English is an excellent example. Here, he was rated in the 99.9th percentile on the McGinty US…)</p>
<p>At any rate, depending on program studied, there are lots of reason to choose McGill – as well as lots of reasons to choose Michigan. For example, the Schulick School of Music is awesome. Montreal is an awesome city, and however much one loves Ann Arbor, it can’t touch Montreal. In addition, for International students, McGill is far an away a “steal” in terms of tuition and living costs when compared to University of Michigan.</p>
<p>And while U of M ranks internationally, btw, SO DOES MCGILL. I can’t recall but don’t believe they’re that far apart.</p>
<p>So, in essence, everything Alexandre said is right on, except I would clarify when he’s referring to the Michigan “experience” trumping McGill – true in a way, because the Canadian university system is really different feeling. But some like that eclectic feel more. So the OP really didn’t give us enough info (eg. program, what he or she is looking for in a program, and whether or not cost is an issue…) to make any meaningful postings.</p>
<p>Which might be why this thread has descended into a philosophical debate instead of advice for the poster 
Cheers,
K</p>
<p>Addendum: International Tuition rates for mcgill:</p>
<p>Arts, Education $15,500 CDN (vs. $34,000 U.S. for LSA)</p>
<p>Engineering, Science
$21,500</p>
<p>Commerce $24,500</p>