Michigan vs Tulane

<p>If you’re prelaw, the only factors that matter are your GPA and LSAT. Go wherever you want to go for social or fit reasons. Michigan and Tulane can both get you into Harvard Law. It’s up to you to make it happen though.</p>

<p>Why are we even talking about investment banking? Goldman doesn’t take more than one or two kids from Michigan each year anyway if at all. It sounds like they do the “same level” of recruiting at Tulane.</p>

<p>It’s funny how you Michigan kids try to compare your school to places like Columbia or Dartmouth for investment banking.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
2009 GRADUATES
Goldman: ?
BAML: ?
RBS: ?
RBC: ?
Barclays: ?
UBS: 1
Deutsche: 3
MS: 5</p>

<p>Honestly, CS, Citi and JPM are the only three major investment banks that recruit Ross students at “target levels”. I know giants92 and bearcats are going to disagree but they’re probably say the “data is flawed” or “stats don’t tell the whole story” or something stupid like that.</p>

<p>I do not doubt the accuracy of the data Ross puts out – anyone who got a job at those places certainly would not hide it, lol. But regarding your ?s for the 2009 numbers: I suppose the 2010 numbers aren’t up, but I personally know people going to Goldman, RBS, RBC, and BarCap starting full time this summer. Can’t speak to BAML.</p>

<p>i’ll definitely agree with the duke ■■■■■ that 2009 placement numbers weren’t that great. I think most people in ross will agree that that particular class didn’t have that many strong finance-oriented students in it for some reason which, combined with the bad economy then, didn’t result in too good placement. 2010 fulltime and 2011 internship numbers are much, much better - goldman took 6 from my class, for example, all front office. Also, relative to peer schools, michigan does extremely well with the top “boutique” investment banks like lazard, evercore, greenhill, moelis, etc. so an analysis of banking placements without including those will understate things a bit.</p>

<p>To fill in the numbers, though, i believe there were 2 to gs, 1 to barcap, 1 to rbc, but i don’t know any going to rbs (not surprising considering what rbs was going through when that class did recruiting). Also, i know there are more than 1 going to ubs, but a few from that class had their offers deferred for like a year, so that may not show up in stats.</p>

<p>In terms of law school, michigan does very well in terms of absolute numbers going to the top law schools, though as a percentage of total student body its a bit lower than some of its private peer schools (as i’ll admit the lower third of each class here isn’t really that competitive). On the other hand, i’d still bet the relative numbers are better than at tulane (which isn’t really a private peer school). Plus, its really easy to get into Michigan law if you do undergrad here.</p>

<p>lesdiablesbleus, first of all, those are verified but self-reported numbers. Not 100% of Ross students who join companies report their placement. </p>

<p>Secondly, Morgan Stanley, Citi, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Deutche, UBS and Credit Suisse all approach Ross as a target for front office jobs. 2009 was an exception (for obvious reasons), not the rule. I doubt Dartmouth and Columbia did much better in 2009. But for each of the previous 5 years (2004-2008), at least 4 Ross students joined each of the 7 IBanks above.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2008.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2007.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2007.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2006.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2006.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2005.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2005.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2004.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2004.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>On average, for those 5 years, 70 (out of a class of 350) or more Ross students joined buldge bracket IBanks each year.</p>

<p>They are pretty different schools but Michigan is definitely the better option. Unless you want smaller class size and more attention, although from what I hear there are still many opportunities at Michigan to get attention and help from professors and the GSI’s as well</p>

<p>i chose tulane… i have a sibling at michigan which would have been a nice addition in some ways, but somewhat limiting at the same time.</p>

<p>with merit award tulane is a few thousand cheaper. tulane honors raises the bar, too. for my personality, the size is more favorable. but i will always be a michigan fan too. it is a VERY tough choice but in the end i think you need to consider the size of the student population. also, as someone who may want to be a doctor, but has very very minor learning disabilities (ADD, to name one), i realized that tulane would have a less competitive atmosphere and i would in general be less overwhelmed with sciences (also coming from a public school that might as well be an ivy league prep school at the way it causes rivalries for college acceptances and highest test scores and ranking #s)</p>