Might change major due to 8 AM's

<p>I had an 8am class last spring and I commuted so I had to get up at 6am to get ready because of the weather. It was awful. And I had another 8am chem class last fall. I was also awful because of how bright the room was and it would kill my eyes.</p>

<p>There would be people that showed up looking like they rolled out of a laundry hamper and this one girl that looked like she was ready to rip the runways after class in full make-up.</p>

<p>My earliest class for the next year is 10am and it is great. I wouldn’t change my major over something like that that’s only a semester but I wouldn’t be happy about taking it. Plus, there’s always summers.</p>

<p>^^ It’s not even just small schools. My school has 40k+ students. Only 2 sections of my capstone class and it’s only offered in the fall. It was smack in the middle of the day and my whole schedule had to be planned around it. They were both at the same time, but one was MW and the other TTh</p>

<p>"I had one that began at 7:40 AM once (with a half hour commute, too). "</p>

<p>Same here. It was pretty much hell. Honestly, if you are really enthusiastic about your original major, that one class won’t matter. If you want to switch to chemistry, then do it, but don’t do it because you think you can’t get up early in the morning. I’m absolutely not a morning person at all, but I forced myself to class for all my pre-9 am classes. At some point, you just learn to deal with it.</p>

<p>To the OP and other similar-minded people:</p>

<p>If you don’t change your mentality about college (or life for that matter) you will have an extremely rude awakening when you get into “the real world.” Honestly, I’m astonished by how late you American kids develop… Be a man/woman for once in your pathetic existence. Stop living in a bubble where mommy and daddy will always be there to save your day, because your future doesn’t look very bright with your current attitude.</p>

<p>You’re a bloody adult now, act like it.</p>

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Sometimes “bloody adults” don’t want to wake up for 8am classes. Perhaps a part of “bloody adulthood” entails introspection and coming to terms with the fact that you’re more productive at certain times of the day and adapting one’s schedule to face these facts.</p>

<p>Or, one could be judgmental, develop a stereotype, make fuzzy yet sweeping generalizations, insult others, and make unconnected (but properly condescending) statements. That could be “bloody adulthood,” too, I suppose.</p>

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Agreed. A three hour class would be pretty intense, and it sounds like it would take up your whole night.</p>

<p>Hey, 8am classes aren’t that bad. Try taking a 5am dairy class for fun in which you find out on the first day that all you do is milk. I learned interesting things in that class (the discussion portion was at 12pm thank god), but I wouldn’t ever take a 5am class again.</p>

<p>For freshman year fall semester, we were all assignment counselors to schedule us because we “didn’t know how to do it”. She put me in an 8:30am speech class. It was tough to wake up so early because it’s college and your internal clock runs a whole different way, but I managed. I would buy myself an extra-nice breakfast afterward and start on some homework because for some reason, I felt incredibly productive when I woke up so early.</p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t go to every class and most of the time I was late, but I really don’t think it was an absolutely horrible experience (especially not one to change a major over) and sometimes it’s nice to force yourself to wake up and do work. The next semester I scheduled my Tuesdays and Thursdays to start at 12:30pm and I slept all the way until 11:00am. Talk about lazy.</p>

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<p>Seriously?? You really don’t have to insult people. I agree with your opinion on the fact that people need to grow up and deal with it when it comes to waking up early for a class (see my previous post), but no need to call someone’s existence pathetic and use such condescending tone. THAT actually reflects immaturity.</p>

<p>I have taken two 8am classes and have one again in the fall. All of them are two hours long and the world didn’t end. This seems like a silly reason to change majors unless you actually want to.</p>

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While this may be true, the majority of American schools for k-12 start around 8 AM. Sometimes if you’re lucky, you’ll live in an area where school starts like 9 and other times if you’re not as lucky it could start closer to 7. So with that in mind, what makes it impossible for someone who could get to school on time k-12 all of a sudden not be able to function during an 8 am in college?
In addition, this isn’t true for everyone. People have different times of being able to get up and going. Personally, I’m the only one in my house who goes to bed before midnight and I get up the earliest. I have a 9 year old sister, a 42 year old mother, and a 63 year old father. I’m a morning person. Everyone else in my family isn’t.
With all of this being said, I believe where there’s a will, there’s a way. If necessary, someone can spend a semester getting up and getting ready for an 8 am class.</p>

<p>What papertown said. </p>

<p>In the real world, you will be expected to be productive by 8 am every day…not just a couple of days a week. </p>

<p>This would be good practice.</p>

<p>Pre-med kids at my university had to take 6:50 AM physics, and engineering majors had to take 7:25 AM physics their freshman year. Thank god starting next semester 8 AM is the earliest class slot.</p>

<p>Anyway, there would be a lot less engineering and pre-med kids at my school if they were at all like you haha</p>

<p>Just because high schools start at a certain time doesn’t mean that is the best time for students. That time is most convenient for buses, administrators, and athletics; not the general student population. That’s why the national sleep foundation pushes for later start times.
[Backgrounder:</a> Later School Start Times | National Sleep Foundation - Information on Sleep Health and Safety](<a href=“http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/hot-topics/backgrounder-later-school-start-times]Backgrounder:”>How Would Later School Start Times Affect Sleep? | Sleep Foundation)
[School</a> Start Time and Sleep | National Sleep Foundation - Information on Sleep Health and Safety](<a href=“http://www.sleepfoundation.org/article/sleep-topics/school-start-time-and-sleep]School”>How Would Later School Start Times Affect Sleep? | Sleep Foundation)</p>

<p>The reasoning that undergraduates should get used to waking up at the same time as working adults do because that’s what they’ll eventually have to do is flawed because it assumes that on average they have the same circadian rhythms (not true) or the same sleep requirements (adults need less sleep).</p>

<p>I’ve done quite a bit of research on this for one of my classes so if you need more info I’ll be happy to provide it.</p>

<p>I would absolutely change my major in order to avoid 8 AM classes, because I would be happier, healthier and more productive, and have a much higher GPA. I was tired every day in high school (we started at 8:45) and it’s simply amazing how much better I feel in college now that I can avoid early morning classes. I understand that for some people waking up at 8 AM isn’t a big deal, which is great. For me, taking a class that lasts till 10 PM is a piece of cake, whereas some of my friends will do everything they can to avoid that. Not all jobs in the “real world” start at 8 AM. Personally I’d rather work a night shift than go to work before 9, and I’m sure there are other people who are exactly the oposite. Bottom line, it’s your own call how much you want to do to avoid getting up in the morning, and I don’t see how it makes you “lazy”.</p>

<p>Some people have an easier time in the mornings than others, its amazing how self-righteous some of you guys can get.</p>

<p>You make it sound like early classes were a cakewalk for those of us that said to nut up or shut up. I hated having an 8:30 class three days a week for almost all four years of undergrad, but I dealt with it. I really liked my major, enjoyed the material, and just had to deal with the fact I couldn’t go out on Thirsty Thursdays with the guys on my hall that were business majors.</p>

<p>I remember getting up at 6AM to get to an 8AM class for a month when I commuted from my mom’s instead of my dad’s. God that was a pain, especially in April when some days it’s warm in the morning and some days it’s cold and rainy.</p>

<p>Go to bed earlier.</p>

<p>Honestly, I don’t know why people are being so harsh and judgmental. Some people aren’t morning people, and never will be. And not everyone will have to work a job that is 8-5 or 9-6. Sure, with enough work you can force yourself to be up and awake for an 8am class, but if you don’t have to, why bother? Sure, changing your major is a little extreme, but if he is contemplating changing his major over something as trivial as this, then perhaps he wasn’t that dedicated in the first place.</p>

<p>But dear lord, the condescension on this thread is ridiculous. Grow up, people.</p>

<p>I had to take a two-hour 8am class on Tu/Th last semester and it was also my hardest/most important class. It was horrible. But I didn’t have a choice. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. You’ll survive.</p>