<p>Just looking for a little advice on something i really have been unable to get a concrete answer on. I am applying to the academy next year and I am eligible for a military affiliated nomination. I know that this assures me a nomination, but I was wondering how much it would help my chances at actually receiving an appointment. I was also wondering if i should still apply for the congressional and senate nomination. Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Woah! My dad's in the military (USCG), I didn't know you were guaranteed a nom because of that! Where do you get this from? Are you sure you're not talking about the Presidential nom? You're not guaranteed one of those.</p>
<p>I'm not sure what you mean by military affiliated nomination...are you just saying that you have family in the military, or is it a special case like you have a family member who won the medal of honor or something?</p>
<p>If it's just a parent or something in the military, it probably wont have a HUGE impact, but it'll help a bit I would say.</p>
<p>He probably means one of these. </p>
<p>Larger pool of applicants sometimes could make it more difficult than a normal congressional nomination (which in itself is sometimes unfair when a particular congressional district may have many more highy qualified applicants than another district).</p>
<p>To my knowledge the only "guaranteed" nomination comes for a son/daughter of a MOH recipient. Even so, it still means the applicant must meet same physical standards. Academics for these applicants - like for athletes- may be fudged a little.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that family members (son, daughter, gradson/daughter) of MOH recepients have guaranteed appointments, in addition to nominations.</p>
<p>I am talking about the presidential nomination. It says that there are an unlimited amount given out, unlike congressional nominations, and i know it does not garuntee you an appoitnment. I was under the impression that anyone qualified for the presidential nomination due to family service personel would recieve one. I know that there is 100 max spots given to the presidential nomination candidates each year, I was just curious about how hard it is to gain an appointment from that pool as compared to the normal congressional nomination.</p>
<p>I received a presidential nomination, the letter format is on the academy admissions website, and that is all you pretty much need. As long as you get it in within a decent time frame of the deadline you basically will get the nomination. That nomination obviously helps, however I also received both of my senators and congressional representaive's nominations as well. The way it was explained to me is that the more nominations you apply for, the better chance you have to get one, then it can only help from there :)</p>
<p>Also... as fas as how it compares to the other nomination pools, I found it easier just because there is less work involved. But that also depends on the state, some states may have more competitive senatorial nomination pools just because they have more people applying for the nominations, there is no real concrete answer.</p>
<p>The Presidential is reserved for military affliated, but there are a limited number. The best guide is get as many noms as possible Cong/Sen/VP/Pres the admissions board will slot you against what works best for them. The Pres may also help get your appointment faste not because it was from the President, but because they can use that nomination before the Cong/Sen come in right Z-Man. Our Pres noms were in before the others and I think it heped admissions.</p>
<p>Thanks once agian. I took a look at the sample presidential nomination letter and am still a little confused on how they choose who gets the nominations because it doenst ask for any type of resume or school records.</p>
<p>If it's like the VP Nomination, the Academy will send them your resume and stuff.</p>
<p>Right you are potterfan, the Pres noms come in long before the others. And that makes sense about the resumes, I personally wasn't sure...</p>
<p>"Thanks once agian. I took a look at the sample presidential nomination letter and am still a little confused on how they choose who gets the nominations because it doenst ask for any type of resume or school records."</p>
<p>I had similar confusion over the summer and finally called the admissions office at USNA. If its the same as a USNA presidential nomination (it probably is) then they don't even need to look at your personal resume or transcript. They just ask for proof that your parent/guardian is/was in the military and they add the Presidential nomination to your profile.</p>
<p>Just sent in my VP and Pres apps today, I'll keep everyone posted on anything affiliated with either.</p>
<p>Cool. I hope it goes well for you. BTW, submitting it early will have distinct advantages, too.</p>
<p>What do you mean by "submitting it early"? Do you mean the app. for the Pres. nomination or the applications? Does submitting it early show the academies a greater deal of commitment or something?</p>
<p>Well granted that there are only 100 presidential nominations given per year, as well as I think it is... dont quote me.... but only 5 per academy for the VP nomination... the earlier its in, the earlier yours get reviewed and gives you a better chance of receiving the nomination. </p>
<p>Thats a rule of thumb for this ENTIRE application process, earlier = better</p>
<p>Z-Man 07 is right. Getting everything in the application finished early could possibly show the Academy you are really dedicated, but the main reason you want to send it early is b/c it will put you in a smaller pool of people for review and selection, like Z-Man mentioned. The CFT is the only thing I recommend waiting a little while to send in. The first pool was open last year until September 1, and I submitted everything except the CFT by mid-August. I prepared as much as possible, and I finally took my CFT on September 1st. I'm not sure, but I think I was in the summer review pool of people. So, I recommend you submit the CFT about a week before the first pool closes. In the end, earlier does = better.</p>
<p>Don't confuse the Presidential "nomination" with the 100 appointments from the "candidate pool" of those Presidential nominations. </p>
<p>As mtrintx90 said above, the "nomination" is a benefit of your career military parents -- you as a son/daughter automatically get into the candidate pool with the Presidential nomination. BUT, you STILL compete then for those 100 appointments with all the other kids of career military parents -- and as many said above, if you have other nominations (from other sources: MOC, etc.) you thus have more opportunities to get an appointment. For example, let's say you aren't in the top 100 of all the candidates from career military families (those receiving "Presidential Nominations") but you are competitive in your Congressman's district, get a nomination, and then get your appointment from there. The "Presidential" nomination, just gives you another opportunity for an appointment. You are competing for the appointment, not the nomination.</p>
<p>Thus, the "bottom line advice" is to apply to as many nomination sources as you can. If your parents are career military, then you can apply to one more source of nominations -- the Presidential -- which gets you 'in the door' of the candidate pool (from which the appointments come). Make sense?</p>
<p>the presidential nominations and appointments are all done by usafa. so since usafa has your file, if they want you and you couldn't get in because of another nomination then they'll give you an appointment from your pres. nomination.</p>
<p>and yes, it is a heck of a lot easier than the congressional appointments, but as everyone has said the more ways you are open to an appointment the better shot you have at getting one due to odds.</p>