Minority admissions rate in the Ivy League.

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<p>Some schools (Harvard released figures in the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education (?)) give information on the number of minority students enrolled and sometimes vaguely mentions the number that applied. Has anyone ever done any weird math calculations to figure out the admissions rate at the top universities for minorities? </p>

<p>It was interesting to find that legacies have a 41% admissions rate at Harvard and it would be even more interesting to find the minority admissions rate to put things into perspective.</p>

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<p>Minority, as in URM? (Cause yanno, Asians are minorities, believe it or not.)</p>

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<p>also (and I'm not trying to be offensive) alot of athletic recruits are minorities, and the athletic part definitely holds more weight than the minority part</p>

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<p><a href="and%20I'm%20not%20trying%20to%20be%20offensive">quote</a> alot of athletic recruits are minorities, and the athletic part definitely holds more weight than the minority

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<p>Wrong you are as the overwhelming number of athletic recruits at ivy league schools are white including basketball, football and baseball. </p>

<ol>
<li><p>The ivies offer no athletic scholarships</p></li>
<li><p>Athletic recuits at the ivies/ elite Lacs cover a wide variety of sports including crew, lax, water polo, hockey, skiiing, soccer, swimming, squash </p></li>
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<p>If the school has a common data set you can look up the number of minorities in any given class. You will see that blacks make up about 7% of the admitted class, hispanics about 6%, native americans, about 2% and asians about 18% of the admitted class.</p>

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<p>^But how many URMs applied for admission?</p>

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<p>Subscribe to JBHE and you can find out, because that infos in a back issue from 2003. It was interesting, JBHE said Williams College accepts 51% of black and Middlebury accepts 76% of blacks, but still can't get African Americans to equate to 5% of an entering class, poor Midd :( Guess the black cmmunity is not too interested in Vermont...</p>

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<p>yea i think those statistics were just for liberal arts schools though, not ivies</p>

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<p>the article in question</p>

<p>The High-Ranking Liberal Arts Colleges Where Black Students Stand the Best Chance of Admission </p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/47_black-admissions_colleges.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/47_black-admissions_colleges.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Does indeed talk about liberal arts colleges. </p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=88097&highlight=amherst%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=88097&highlight=amherst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>In the autumn 2005 issue of the JHBE,
There is a listing of </p>

<p>Enrollments by Race at Nationally Ranked Universities</p>

<p>this same edition has also has an article </p>

<p>The Progress of Black Student Enrollments at the Nation's Highest-Ranked Colleges and Universities</p>

<p>which list the acceptance rates for African Americans</p>

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<p>2003 issue listed National Univeristies, and Spring 2004 listed ED at National Universities, which had many shockers, like John Hopkins accepts 76% of black early decision candidates.</p>

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<p>From the JHBE article</p>

<p>The Progress of Black Student Enrollments at the Nation's Highest-Ranked Colleges and Universities </p>

<p>(I can't post the link but if you are a subscriber, you can access the information)</p>

<p>Fall 2005 (class of 2009)</p>

<p>Stanford 252 blacks admitted 156 enrolled black yeild 61.9 % 9.5 % of the freshman class </p>

<p>Duke 1867 black applicants, 163 blacks enrolled 9.5 % of the admitted class</p>

<p>Princeton 116 blacks enrolled 9.4 % of the freshman class</p>

<p>harvard 221 admitted, 153 enrolled black yeild 69.2 9.3% of the freshman class</p>

<p>Yale 1134 black applicants 122 enrolled 9.2% of the admitted class</p>

<p>columbia 1390 black applicants 114 enrolled 8.5% of the admitted class</p>

<p>Gerogrtown 1092 applied 300 admitted acceptance rate 30.2% 121 enrolled, yeild 36.7% 7.9% of the freshman class</p>

<p>Dartmouth 82 enrolled 7.9% of the freshman class</p>

<p>Penn 1229 applicants, 367 admitted 29.9 acceptance rate 193 enrolled 52.6 black yeild 7.6% of the freshman class</p>

<p>Brown 1089 applied 253 admitted 23.2 black acceptance rate 97 enrolled 38.3 yeild 6.6% of the freshman class</p>

<p>JHU 943 applied 343 admitted 36.5 admit rate 75 enrolled 21.8% black yeild 6.3% of the freshman class</p>

<p>Cornell 1126 applied 410 admitted 36.4 admit rate 175 enrolled 42.7 yeild rate 5.6% of the admitted class</p>

<p>MIT 365 applied 115 admitted 31.5 admit rate 55 enrolled 47.8& yeild 5.5% of freshman class</p>

<p>WashU 1884 applied 253 admitted 13.4% acceptance rate 76 enrolled 30% yeild 5.4 % of freshman class </p>

<p>U of Chicago 424 applied 53 enrolled 4.4 % of freshman class </p>

<p>UC Berkley 1572 applied 272 admitted 18.6 % admit rate 129 enrolled 44.2 yeild 3.1% of freshman class </p>

<p>Cal tech 40 applied 1 enrolled .04% of the freshman class</p>

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<p>Sorry gang, </p>

<p>I was able to google the article </p>

<p>The Progress of Black Student Enrollments at the Nation's Highest-Ranked Colleges and Universities </p>

<p>here is the link</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>AA is a factor - but as a URM I can tell you that URM applicants to Harvard Yard and the like sometimes are a self-selected group. 61.9 admit rate to stanford sounds good but you still won't stand a chance in hell without proper creds. and achievements. Anyone here have native american admission rates? Curious.</p>

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61.9 admit rate to stanford sounds good but you still won't stand a chance in hell without proper creds.

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<p>It is not a 61.9 % admit rate, but a 69.1 percent yeild rate which means of the 252 black students that were admitted to stanford,
61.9 % or 156 students decided to enroll</p>

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<p>
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It is not a 61.9 % admit rate, but a 69.1 percent yeild rate which means of the 252 black students that were admitted to stanford,
61.9 % or 156 students decided to enroll

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<p>Good to see someone else on this forum uses the quote headers.</p>

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<p>sybbie, I'm sorry, I used poor diction, by "alot" I did not mean "the majority" i simply meant that it is rather difficult to really analyze these stats because there will be overlaps of all groups.</p>

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<p>I wanted to point out something interesting. Even a very high black acceptance rate does very little to the overall percentages. Take for example MIT, a school that in 2005 had an overall acceptance rate of 14.3% & black acceptance rate of 31.5%. Using the numbers given, the non-black acceptance rate was 13.7%. I think the difference b/w 14.3% & 13.7% is nothing to whine about...and a white student w/ a perfect SAT etc that was rejected would most likely still be rejected even if no black, hispanic, native american students applied.</p>

<p>And MIT is the most extreme example in the list. For the rest of the top schools the results are even more negligible. The legitimacy of affirmative action is up to debate, but as to whether or not it would likely affect any individual's decision...the answer is no.</p>