MIT Class of 2021 Applicants

I wonder how similar last year’s statistics will be for this year. Given MIT’s commitment to data, it would be nice to put these numbers below (for the class of 2021) in some perspective; that is, how different are they from the year before and are they likely to be predictive for the class of 2021 (i.e., was the previous year unique for some reason). Maybe the ever watchful, helpful MITChris can put these numbers in perspective? It is RARE to have someone so informed, objective, and positive on these pages.

See this link for numbers for the class of 2020: http://mitadmissions.org/apply/process/stats

It contains numbers of applicants/acceptances for EA and regular decision, with sufficient detail to see results for those deferred from EA into the RD pool.

This is what I calculated (disclaimer - I am highly prone to error):
Percentage of EA applicants accepted in December = 8.44%
Percentage of EA applicants who were deferred in December but accepted in March = 4.36%
Percentage of RD applicants accepted (excluding the ED deferred group): = 5.51%
Overall RD acceptance rate (including ED deferred into RD pool) = 5.12%

Did anyone not have an interview and still get in? I didn’t know about the interview deadline until now and I’m hoping my interviewer can still squeeze me in :confused:

@lemon415 Sorry to hear that! Unfortunately <1% of applicants without an interview get in because of MIT’s holistic admissions process.

You will take what, maybe 100-150 deferred EA kids during RD? You keep 5,800 kids on the hook for another three months. You couldn’t make that 2,000 or 1,500? Really?

I don’t know how someone can still complain about how MIT handles EA admissions. it has been like that for a while, why does this come as a surprise. Don’t apply EA if you can’t take a deferral. Complaining about it now just makes you look bitter.

we take more than 100-150 deferred in RA

i’ve posted why we do what we do many, many times. it’s unpleasant for everyone (remember, we have to do the extra work to re-review everyone we deferred, too!) but it’s the least-worst solution.

@MITChris Apart from the update form, what differentiates the deferred application from early to regular? e.g. why is an applicant who is deferred get in regular?

Is it simply that admissions wants to take a look at how good all the applicants (including regular) are before making a decision?

@anitram Bitter? Really? See, that’s kinda personal. I’m sorry if you find posts on this subject annoying. But it is a legitimate subject for discussion on these pages.

Perhaps surprisingly, it is not the case that all EA MIT applicants are aware of MIT’s strategy. We certainly were not - but no worries, my daughter is set; deferred by MIT but accepted by her dream school. My interest here is with the policy and its justification, not anything to do with my family.

@MITChris The only explanation I have seen on this forum about WHY MIT defers so many in the EA round is that, essentially, it is super convenient for MIT admissions–a very vague statement that you guys like to have that HUGE list hanging around, just in case. Why? Because things evolve. Huh?

Minimally, since you personally show so clearly such passion for MIT and for the applicants - it would be nice to read you say that you recognize that it is TOUGHER for the deferred applicants than for you. Seriously, it is WAY harder for the 17 year old applicant than for the adult professional, even if, as you say, “it’s unpleasant for everyone!” I may be overly optimistic, but just seems to me that with a more careful consideration of the downside for the applicants - if you could be convinced that it truly matters in a negative way, that maybe you could whittle down that deferral number. At a minimum, it is a choice that NOT all elite schools make and it seems worthwhile, every few years, to re-evaluate the strategy. Adding a clear statement on the admissions page’s instructions for EA applicants would be useful (including historical acceptance rates for deferred EA applicants versus RD applicants).

So here is a serious suggestion: For the next three years of ED rounds - keep your deferral rate sky high but internally, flag the “bottom” 50 % of applicants (including those you actually reject). Just keep a list of these so flagged but not rejected. Three years later, go back and look to see how many flagged in this way actually gain admittance in the RD round. It just HAS to be the case that VERY few will have gained admittance. Why? Because you guys are professionals and you have extensive experience making these very tough decisions.

are you kidding me? There is a clear statement on the MIT admissions page about the numbers of EA deferrals and the RD acceptance of deferred. It is not MIT’s fault if somebody doesn’t want to read this information.

Congratulations to your daughter’s admittance to her dream school, why don’t you just celebrate that instead of lashing out at another school? just because other “elite” schools ( I hate that word) handle their EA differently doesn’t mean that MIT has to. They do it their way - if your daughter doesn’t like it, MIT might not be the right school for her anyway.

MIT accepts a wide variety of students. Everybody contributes to the overall experience of the class in their own way. It appears that essentially, if the applicant does not perfectly fit one of the many types of students they are looking for, but are still unique and qualified, they will be deferred so that admissions can look at all other applicants to see if they are one of the best fit for their type of student, whatever it may be.

@anitram It makes me sad that you feel that those expressing concern about the EA deferral are “lashing out” and I I am distressed that questions about MIT admissions strategy made you feel justified in attacking me and my daughter personally.

Please be reassured that I am not angry at MIT. I am not lashing out. This is a comments forum that ought to be able to handle conversations of this nature without individuals taking these things personally. Sometimes, just a teeny tiny bit more clarity goes such a long way and sometimes, information has to be conveyed more than once. Life is like that.

At a minimum, it seems like a conversation worth having. Discussing MIT admissions strategy is worth it precisely because of what MIT is - the best among the best.

I, along with my daughter, have enjoyed cruising these CC pages precisely because of the positive, supportive nature of the posters. It is, in most senses, a community. I understand that emotions run high at this time of year but please try to avoid feeling personally defensive at this subject.

@SandrewP Thanks! It IS nice to think of an admissions process that doesn’t just stuff statistics into a program to pop out an acceptance list, isn’t it? I feel lucky that in MY job, I don’t have to make decisions very often that have such affect people’s lives in such profound ways.

You students applying to MIT have my undying respect - so accomplished, ambitious - AND resilient. Those traits will serve you all well.

The brightest minds of the world apply to MIT. It must be very difficult to select from that pool.

MIT is arguably the best university in the world, and every applicant wants to get into a MIT a whole lot more than MIT wants/needs he or she. We are at their mercy, so we just have to deal with it.

You take this way to personal, I wasn’t trying to offend you in any way and I am sorry you feel distressed about it. I really am happy that your daughter got into her dream school.

If you look back over the last years, the same discussion pops up at around this time of year. MIT’s EA is non-restrictive unlike many of the so-called Elite schools (there is that word again). Nowhere on the MIT admissions page does it say, that you have an advantage for applying early, however if you do get deferred, you have a second shot at acceptance. When my daughter applied to MIT EA she knew what she was getting into and was fully prepared. I just expect high achieving students to be able to read all the information about a school and then decide if they want to apply EA or not.

Of course you can discuss if MIT’s strategy makes sense or not, but you will also have to able to accept different opinions. I agree that a deferral is stressful for the students, but they will just have to deal with it. I think a rejection is far harder to deal with.

profdad, you’re right that it’s harder for the students than it is for us; they’re students, and we’re professionals. I apologize for implying equivalence. My point was only that it’s not easy for us to defer people, either. I think sometimes people think that it’s easier for us to just defer someone than deny them, but it’s actually the reverse: it would be much easier for us, workload-wise, to deny many more students in early, but we would be doing MIT (and the applicants) a disservice.

As a point of clarification: the statistics you requested are available here - http://mitadmissions.org/apply/process/stats, and the deferred instructions blog post was posted, as is our convention, two days after decisions here: http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/tips-for-the-ea-deferred

The “applications evolve” explanation is the correct one, but the problem is that there is so much uncertainty about which applications will evolve how. Here are a few examples, made up completely on the spot by me, right now, because I woke up early and have no life, but representative of archetypes we see:

  1. a student that we want to admit early but who comes from an underresourced high school and this is her first time taking AP STEM classes. By EA we don’t have any grades on her yet and we want to make sure that she’s doing well as she steps up to the rigor of APBC and AP Phys, so we defer her because her reaction to that academic challenge could go either way and we need more information

  2. a student who applies early having just begun a research project. The research supplement sounds promising and the research LOR is going gaga but so do the portfolios/LORs for many of our students. The student indicates she is submitting her research project to, say, the Regeneron STS and will be notified about her semifinalist or finalist status in January or February. We defer to RA to see if the student is vetted by experienced judges as performing research that is among the top 300/40/10/1 of their cohort.

  3. a student who is (to use the CC term) “unhooked” (i.e., lacks a formal distinction that identifies them as a clear institutional priority), but much beloved by their community and might play the same role at MIT. We don’t have the space for them in early, and we don’t know what the pool will look like in regular, so we defer to regular to see how many spaces we have and if we have the room to allocate to a student who lacks formal distinctions but remains compelling for fuzzier but still powerful reasons.


As you can see from these three (I emphasize again arbitrary/made up/any resemblance to applicants past or present is completely accidental) examples, there are different kinds of evolution here. Some, like the grades, are largely within the applicant’s locus of control. Some, like the research contests, are mixed between them and the external program that they work with which vets, verifies, and fetes their projects. Some depend entirely on us and our process and are outside the locus of control of the students. This is why we can’t give ‘reasons’ for a deferral. Often, there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with an application, at least in the sense of anything they can fix; instead, it’s stuff outside of them which nonetheless overdetermines their outcome in the process.

So the deferral period is a time during which these uncertainties, distributed across many different actors/agencies, are moving from flux to equilibrium, until sometime in March when we have to finalize decisions and so at that time we take a look at the students and say “allright, these are the students who were deferred, and here’s how all of these things worked out, and now here are the best decisions we can make at this point.” And the result of that, obviously, is that most students we deferred were denied anyway, because our applicant pool is ludicrously deep and strong. But again, we didn’t know which students those would be in early, or we would have denied them in early.

For us to deny more students than we currently do in early, we would have to make decisions with known-to-be-incomplete-information, decisions we couldn’t take back, and decisions that would potentially impoverish MIT (and also turn away really great students who might, on balance, have preferred to been deferred if they might have gotten in). So what we try to do is to deny as many students as possible in early, but only if we are effectively certain that they will not be admitted in regular.

It’s hard. And as someone who went to my undergrad off the waitlist (aka RA deferral), I get the gut feels. I’m just trying to explain the background mechanics that “applicants evolve” is shorthand for.

@MITChris I think it means a lot to the people on this forum that you took the time to respond in this way.
Of course, there will still be questions, but thanks for trying to clear the fog on this issue.

@MITChris Thanks SO much for the detailed, thoughtful response.

Reading through these CC comments over the last couple of months (and yes, often with my daughter) has been quite a positive experience. Interestingly, despite the anonymity, the posts reveal such sincerity with lots of other positive words I could toss in too, if only I had a better vocabulary…It convinced my daughter that MIT is really a wonderful community. From a distance, living in an area where not many people attend this sort of school, it seemed almost kinda scary and intimidating. But not anymore.

For those of you headed to MIT, you are SO lucky. Not only will you be earning a degree from MIT (duh, speaks for itself) but you will have such a wonderful intellectual and social experience. After all, all those on this forum who have been admitted (or will be admitted in March) will be there and you folks are amazing.

Onward and upward.

Thanks for the clarification. For many of these kids who have worked hard not being “denied” outright is in itself a
huge relief and a moral booster. We all love this wonderful institute.

@MITChris Thank you for your response. We on CC have no idea how difficult it is to make those kind of decisions. Thank you again for taking time out to write that.