Moral/Ethical codes require religion/spirituality/philosophy

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<p>See title.</p>

<p>Is it possible to empirically justify any set of morals or ethics? Or must there at some point be some assumption?</p>

<p>In other words, would a total empiricist also be a moral nihilist by natural and inevitable extension?</p>

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<p>Hmmm…as a religious person, i’d say i wouldn’t do anything bad…even if i wouldn’t get caught or while no one is looking because i know that Allah (God) can still see me.</p>

<p>But everyone still has a conscience, no?</p>

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<p>The question is whether one is justified in following it if one does not believe it exists because it cannot be empirically shown.</p>

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<p>Not neccesarily religion, but it is true that justifying a moral code requires the assumption that some basic standard of good and bad not invented by humans does exist.</p>

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<p>No, now step out of tok class.</p>

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<p>No.
I wasn’t raised with religion. I was just raised to never hurt people (because I don’t like to see other people sad). I base my life off that.</p>

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<p>“Moral/Ethical codes require religion/spirituality/philosophy”</p>

<p>^I vote yes. Not necessarily religion or spirituality, but definitely philosophy. Morality is defined as a system of conduct and ethics, and you can only judge whether a conduct is “right” or “wrong” if you follow some form of personal philosophy.</p>

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<p>^I agree.</p>

<p>romanigypsyeyes, so you admit that your practice of treating people nicely is based off of your desire to be viscerally happy, not on any sort of moral or ethical grounds?</p>

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<p>Please. As if I would ever take philosophy – I do not have the patience for it.</p>

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<p>this is just the exact same question I got in tok class</p>

<p>I hate philosophy classes.</p>

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<p>It hurts me to see other people sad. So yes, I suppose it is a selfish reason but not based off of religion or philosophy. Perhaps spirituality, but that is a stretch.</p>