<p>i was wondering what my chances are in these california law schools. here are my stats: 3.75 gpa from berkeley, 161 LSAT, good extra cirriculars, great summer internship..</p>
<p>Hastings
Davis
UCLA
USC
Boalt</p>
<p>No chance at BOALT. I do not know about the rest.</p>
<p>do you think that's based solely on stats, or does the fact that i go to berkeley lower my chances?</p>
<p>anyone else-- opinions on my orignal question?</p>
<p>Your LSAT is too low.</p>
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Don't listen to these discouraging remarks. You do have a chance to get into Boalt. They do a very holistic evaluation, where they read over every word of your application and take all factors into consideration. In fact, people with LSAT scores lower than 161 have gotten in. Just make sure you write a really good personal statement. </p>
<p>I believe that you have a good chance of getting into Hastings, probably the best chance out of the schools you had listed.</p>
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<p>Huh?</p>
<p>He is in the 36th percentile for BOALT; every school outside the top 3 and Northwestern admits students based on numbers. The notion of a "very holistic evaluation" is a complete delusion. Unless the OP is a URM, there is no chance.</p>
<p>The only one accepted went to a top 10 school in Massachusetts; so he either attended MIT or Harvard. Cal is not neither of those schools, nor even near the top 10.</p>
<p>He has no chance. He can apply, but he is just donating money.</p>
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<p>In fact, people with LSAT scores lower than a 150 have gotten into HLS.</p>
<p>Wait, not really. What is my point? I can say "people have gotten in," and so forth, but the claim demonstrates nothing. If you are not lying or poorly extrapolating from a single experience, you fail to consider URM status, which is an enormous factor in the decision-making process.</p>
<p>Wow nspeds, you seem to know more about this than the Director of Admissions at Boalt, with whom I had a lenghty conversation about this very subject just a few days ago. Perhaps I should have made an appointment with you instead.</p>
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Wow nspeds, you seem to know more about this than the Director of Admissions at Boalt, with whom I had a lenghty conversation about this very subject just a few days ago. Perhaps I should have made an appointment with you instead.
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<p>OH YES! Because deans of admissions always tell the whole story. Do you actually expect him to tell you the whole story?</p>
<p>If I had a penny for every dean who told me they look at "all aspects" of the application. The facts do not lie.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, my counselor is the former dean of admissions at UChicago law, so talking to me was not that big of a mistake.</p>
<p>But if that, and the facts I posted above, are not enough to counter your sanguineness, then you are a gone case.</p>
<p>But wait! Let us look at Harvard Law School's website:</p>
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Are all applications read?
Each application is reviewed thoroughly by as many as five readers.
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<p>Are there "cut-off" GPAs or LSATs below which applications are not considered?
No. There are no "cut-off" GPAs or LSATs below which an application will not be considered in its entirety. We have no computational methods for making admission decisions, no mechanical shortcuts, no substitutes for careful assessment and good judgment. Our review process seeks to assess a number of characteristics that have few direct or precise measures by looking for evidence of these characteristics throughout an application.
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<p>Among the sea of rejects, there is one admitted student; he is Native American.</p>
<p>Your naiveté humors me. Conversations with admissions deans are oh so fun. Speaking of which, I should have called the dean of admissions at Harvard when I was thinking of applying; perhaps he would have told me the formula for admissions right on the spot!</p>
<p>Not.</p>
<p>Yes, those are some stats for BOALT. Somehow, I cannot hear the voice of the dean of admissions at BOALT echoing through the HTML, but that could be my hearing.</p>
<p>You exasperate me. Respond in that tone again and I might have to insult you!</p>
<p>LMAO...oh wow.</p>
<p>That's fine... you win. By the way, did I ever say I was a law school applicant? No. I'm received a 160 on my LSAT, and I was admitted. I'm not a minority. No special circumstances at all. How do you explain that nspeds? Do you think they made a mistake while reviewing my application. </p>
<p>I'm just trying to give some encouragement to those who might be looking for it, that's all. If I would have listening to somebody like you a few years ago, who said that I had no chance of getting in, and that I'd be wasting my money, I'd probably be at some tier 4 law school right now. But I didn't, so I'm not. </p>
<p>So, Tambone, if you are reading this... just apply. You might get in! Good luck! </p>
<p>This will be my last post, as I'm far so busy to exchange hostile messages with the likes of you. People like you, with their discouraging remarks are just another obstacle in the path of many of the people on this disscussion board. There's the LSAT; the challege of maintaining a high GPA; and discouraging people like nspeds. </p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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How do you explain that nspeds?
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<p>You are lying. You were admitted as a junior transfer at Cal in the fall of 2005. You are now a senior, which is far too early for you to be receiving decisions the earliest, I believe, is mid-November.Next time, try concealing your post history before trying to lie.</p>
<p>Wow, you must resort to lying in order to prove your point. I guess this is the height of desperation.</p>
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I'm just trying to give some encouragement to those who might be looking for it, that's all
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<p>False hope. I like it.</p>
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I'd probably be at some tier 4 law school right now. But I didn't, so I'm not.
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<p>You are correct! You are not at a law school. That is absolutely correct.</p>
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People like you, with their discouraging remarks are just another obstacle in the path of many of the people on this disscussion board.
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<p>...and people like you use lies to engender false hope. I guess I am just the lesser of two evils.</p>
<p>Heh...</p>
<p>So you were taking practice tests as of early September, which means that you either obtained a less-than-expected score on the June administration of the LSAT or that you did not take the LSAT at all. Since you are not too much of an idiot (you did, after all, make it to Cal), I am assuming you took the September 30th test, and that you thus received your score on the day-before-yesterday. Wow, your applications should not even be complete.</p>
<p>Long live the interweb.</p>
<p>So I guess, given your defensive posture, I pulled a string. You really did score a 160, and you are offended by my statement, since it implies that you, too, will be rejected.</p>
<p>I know, I know. When someone is told by another, albiet indirectly, that they have no chance at their top-choice school, one can get defensive. At least, I destroyed your optimism. Now you can approach the admissions process with a proper mindset. </p>
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I'd probably be at some tier 4 law school right now.
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<p>Well, you better start rubbing some prayer beads.</p>
<p>Good Lord. There are better uses for one's time...</p>
<p>And to the OP (really...just to the OP!), Boalt has a reputation as a GPA school. They weigh GPA especially heavily in admissions. I don't know exactly HOW heavily and how it compares to LSAT, but that does bode well for you.</p>
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<p>One would think.</p>
<p>nspeds,</p>
<p>Cool it.</p>
<p>I am closing this thread and directly telling everyone that I will not tolerate this lack of civility. The next poster that offers a mean-sprirted response to a legitimate question will be timed-out or banned. Undestood?</p>