More Job-starved College Grads Turn to Trade Schools

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<p>By H.J. CUMMINS
Star Tribune </p>

<p>MINNEAPOLIS — For all the college graduates whose degrees in Catholic studies or history of medicine haven't really attracted a lot of jobs-with-benefits offers, Amy Wolfe has a suggestion: Learn a trade.</p>

<p>That's what Wolfe, a 2003 Southern New Hampshire University graduate in sports management, is doing. Not happy in her first job out of school in retail sales — "I didn't hate it, but ... " she said — she left to train as an air traffic controller at the Minneapolis Community and Technical College. The 27-year-old will graduate in August, employable after just one year's study.</p>

<p>"I'd always had some interest in aviation," said Wolfe, of Eden Prairie. "This seems important and challenging, something not everyone can do. I know there can be times of crazy stress, but it's a satisfying stress, I think."</p>

<p>They're upending one role that community and technical colleges used to take. Community colleges were a place to study hard and try to get into a four-year university. Now students with four-year degrees are using them to get jobs...."</p>

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<p>Yup, unless you go to a very top liberal arts school majoring in areas such as English can be very hazardous to earning a living. Not everyone can afford another couple of years in grad school.</p>

<p>I can see my S doing something like this after his LA degree. Fine with me.</p>

<p>I want to go to beauty school after getting my college degree. :D</p>

<p>I left my LAC to work and wander after a year and a half. I knew I had no direction and wanted to have one before accumulating more debt. I ended up at Cornell Univ/NY Hospital School of Nursing (program is gone now) and never again worried about getting a job.</p>

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To become an air traffic controller, a person must enroll in an FAA-approved education program and pass a pre-employment test that measures his or her ability to learn the controller’s duties. Exceptions are air traffic controllers with prior experience and military veterans. The pre-employment test is currently offered only to students in the FAA Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative Program or the Minneapolis Community & Technical College, Air Traffic Control Training Program.

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One needs a 4-year degree or combination of work and degree to apply for Air Traffic control Training Program - so this program is highlevel even if it is housed at a Community college.</p>

<p>Many trades pay well and if you are smart, college-educated, and with a good business sense, you could end up owning your own small (or eventually, large) company.</p>

<p>I know someone who finished two trade programs (each for a year). I believe that one was plumbing, and the other was in heating/AC. He told me that 4 years ago students were being hired for $60,000 to start (+ benefits-ie: major medical). I don't know how much room there is for growth after that, but that was some starting salary.</p>

<p>The comment about outsourcing is correct, and often overlooked by policy makers who think everyone should go to a four-year college.</p>

<p>Some kids still don't believe engineers are being outsource either since the job market is so strong.</p>

<p>engineering is still strong- math and science in US schools is still weak however, prompting some companies to hire or relocate abroad.
<a href="http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_5920770%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_5920770&lt;/a>
My 24 yr old nephew for instance- who attended U Boulder, and received a degree in aeronautical engineering, found a job last year right out of school making $60,000. The company is so interested in finding more workers in teh US, that they have been flying him around to recruit on campus.</p>

<p>Our district has hired coaches, to teach teachers how to teach science and math, but hasn't gotten to the point where they will allow those coaches to work directly with the students- and the coaches, many of whom have advanced degrees, aren't interested in spending time and money to go back and take "education", courses in order to do so, particulary when they feel those courses are part of the problem.</p>

<p>My daughter has been fortunate in high school, to have several science teachers who have had quite a bit of real life employment in their fields, which has made them better teachers.( but math is still a sore spot in the district)</p>

<p>Some fields always need people, teaching, nursing, police officers, auto mechanics, fairly good benefits although the work isn't fun if you aren't suited.</p>

<p>While D didn't do any internships in college ( which I would recommend), all her friends are either employed or in grad school. Most of them are also employed in their fields. For instance her college roommate who majored in biochem, is working at the health sciences university doing chem research.</p>

<p>I think rather than start requiring college degrees for fields that don't really need them ( as this cuts out individuals who aren't suited or can't afford to attend college), perhaps we need to encourage more people to take a year or two off before college, to work or participate in a program that would enable them to get a better sense of how the world works.</p>

<p>Rather than aiming for a degree in English * because they like to read* and then not having any idea what they can do with it. Its fine to get a degree in English or psychology or any degree that you don't think of being directly job applicable, but students should also realize that not everyone is going to be a college professor, and they should be exploring other ideas.</p>

<p>I also think that the sense of entitlement that leads some students to believe they * deserve* admittance to prestigious colleges, influences their perspective toward jobs that don't give them a corner office and a salary to match right out of college.They may not have a lot of patience with jobs that aren't so fullfilling.</p>

<p>A good company has many opportunties for employment, and while you may start even in the mail room or answering phones, if they looked at it as a path towards showing what they can do, and why someone should pay them for it, they might have more luck.</p>

<p>What they also may keep in mind, is something that another poster on the boards has brought to mind. Just because you make a great salary doesn't mean your job is going to meet all your needs. If their entry level job, isn't intellectually all they expected, they may want to pursue volunteer work or a hobby that they find rewarding that they might have had to put off while they were in college.</p>

<p>My S2 will probably go straight from h.s. to Comm. Coll. to earn some sort of trade degree. We are not upset about that at all. It is where his talents lie.
We see a many possibilities for his future.</p>

<p>My older D graduated in '06 with a Bachelor of Art in Visual Art. She immediately began to study interior design at our local community college. She also has a paid internship with a local designer.</p>