<p>If a congressional representative has the ability to make more nominations than there were applicants that submitted nomination requests, do they likely use them all and just rank them or identify the top candidate? For example, two graduates in 2008 leaves two openings for 2012 and 10 nominations per opening for a total of 20, and say there are only 16 nomination request packages submitted. So long as the nomination request package is complete and the interview is satisfactory, will the congressman give nominations to all the applicants?</p>
<p>^^^^^
It all depends upon each particular MOC. If a particular applicant would make a poor candidate he/she may not receive a nomination regardless of their availability. There is no absolute answer to this question.</p>
<p>right - the congressman may choose to leave a slate open.</p>
<p>I actually had this conversation with my MOC's nominations manager (she has been doing this for 10 years)
She told me - just like you said - if they have 14 candidates for 2 slates he most likely won't use both slates and will keep one opening available. He doesn't like to submit a slate of fewer than 10 candidates.</p>
<p>That is not to say yours won't - the MOC can do what they want.</p>
<p>One more point - just because two graduate from one district doesn't mean both were charged to the MOC. Every year the academies notify the MOC's of how many openings they have available to fill.</p>
<p>I have a question. In Florida, Senator Martinez nominated 20 people for West Point. How is this possible? I thought they could only have 5 nominations and 5 alternates?</p>
<p>They said they were all nominated.</p>
<p>Each Representative/Senator is alloted 5 slots at each Service Academy (except USCGA since they don't use noms) for their constituants. When one of their constituants graduates it creates a vacancy. They are allowed to nominate 10 candidates for each vacancy they have.</p>
<p>So, Sen. Martinez must have had two vacancies at West Point (ie two constitutants that will be graduating w/ the c/o 2008) and thus made 10 nominations per vacancy for a total of 20 nominations to West Point.</p>
<p>Ah, thanks alot guys.</p>
<p>When I applied to Air Force Academy, I got a nomination both years from my rep and at first I thought "w00t to me for getting the nomination"... little did I know that the case was the same, only 5 applicants for 10 nominations. Indeed, I could have messed up the interview and not gotten the nomination but I guess its good to still do good.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>A nomination is a nomination.</p>
<p>So, if I understand correctly, each Senator/Representative gets 5 slots at an academy. They nominate 10 people per slot. </p>
<p>Now, if, say, two people are found Triple Q'd on the slate of 10, will one DEFINITELY receive an appointment? And for the other Triple Q'd person, if they were also chosen for an appointment from the national pool, wouldn't that put the MOC over the 5 person limit?</p>
<p>Also, what happens if nobody on the slate is triple qualified? Doesn't the representative HAVE to have 5 people? And if they don't get someone for that year, and it happened in enough states, wouldn't that push other MOCs over their limit?</p>
<p>It does not put the MOC over their limit, b/c he wasn't charged with the nom. from the national pool (i.e. pres, v.p. sec, supt., sen). </p>
<p>Just b/c you are triple with a nom they do not have to accept. The MOC can have up to 5.</p>
<p>Sometimes MOC do not know if they are triple, i.e. CFA was not done before nom. process. Candidate gets the nom, but fails the CFA or Dodmerb.</p>
<p>Also remember just b/c a candidate becomes a cadet, it is not necessarily true that they will grad. 5% of cadets drop at BCT, which would create an opening.</p>
<p>MOC's by law can never be over their 5. It is a part of fed law (title X?)</p>
<p>In response to the senario...</p>
<p>If the MOC designates one of the triple qual'd candidates as his "primary nomination", the I believe the Academy is req by law to offer that candidate an appointment. Not all MOC's use the primary nomination system.</p>
<p>If the triple qual'd candidates do not receive a primary nomination and just a nomination, it is possible that they would not be granted an appointment.</p>
<p>However only one candidate out of the 10 could be given an appointment with that MOC's nomination.</p>
<p>Appointing candidates from the national pool would not count against an MOC's 5 slots. Just like appointing a candidate via a Vice Presidential Nomination or Presidential Nomination counts against the Vice Pres and President's slots, not the MOC.</p>
<p>MOC's do not have to have 5 cadets/midshipmen at each Academy, but that is the most that they could have.</p>
<p>BTW - Naval Academy students are Midshipmen not Cadets and at Navy summer training for freshmen is called Plebe Summer not Basic Cadet Training.</p>
<p>Most MOC's DO NOT give "principal". They may say you are my no. 1 choice, but that is totally different than saying you are my principle...in other words they can say to the acad "X" is my number 1 nom, but I am not giving them a principle. Why? B/C this allows the SA freedom to move appts. around.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Yes, that is definetly very true.</p>
<p>To reduce confusion Primary = Principal. It is law. Principal must receive the appt., if qualified</p>