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<p>Many of your arguments seem very plausible to me, including this one. I would assume that Harvard is the overall #1 choice as grad school for Ptonians (and in fact H grad schools seem to value the P undergrad experience). Probably P undergrads who went on to H grad school are least paranoic about the relationship of the two elites, because they experienced that - relative to the rest of the world - commonalities exceed the differences.</p>
<p>You are confused, Bulldog: in this instance at least, we are talking about the Herald, and not the YDN. </p>
<p>I cited the story simply at the request of young Prepster, who wanted a source for the claim that the rectitudinous President of Yale had ever uttered that famous chant: "Harvard sucks!"</p>
<p>By the by, Bulldog - whatever possesses you to assert, bizarrely, that I ever applied to Yale? Is there perhaps a bit of projecting going on here?</p>
<p>out of curiosity, which other schools would Harvard students inadvertently think off as their peer group (I know, "it's lonely at the top", but you get what I mean): Stanford, Yale?</p>
<p>Let's all tiptoe out of the room very very quietly and leave Byerly and Playfair and baba to their party. Of course my suspicion is that they are all the same person:). JK, JK, JK.</p>
<p>harvard med kills all of the schools you listed in terms of NIH funding - due to its very wise affiliation with multiple and previously independent research institutions/hospitals in the Boston area. Literally, by giving out the haravrd name to everyone at MGH, the brigham, beth israel, danafarber, and childrens etc... harvard will (and perhaps rightly so, if I might say) have unparalleled NIH funding compared to other institutions. Something to look for is a 50% reduction over the next few years in NIH funding. Together with a ban on certain forms of highly promising research means that no matter where you go to school, your motto should be "hope we don't get sick" and princeton doesn't matter. </p>
<p>:eek: Am I lost? Is this a bad dream? Where am I? What has happened? All this talk of Y and H....and here I thought I was....on the Princeton board! :eek:</p>
<p>Why is everyone obsessing over a name? I've heard that P is a lot better for undergrad. Besides, the ultimate goal is to find a nice job/grad school. If there are 2 candidates for the same position, 1 being from H and 1 from P, they're a lot more likely to consider who's more qualified, not what name is on their diploma, as both schools are fairly on the same level (I don't think employers obsess as much about minor nuances in prestige as much as some people on this board).</p>
<p>Cross Admit Is Hockey Pockey Data. They Should Publish All The Data With Geographical Breakdown Plus Win/loss From Each Region. Yields Are Not The Same For Each Region. For Stanford Ca Yld Is 90% Northeast Is Around 25% Or Lower I Assume. This Clearly Gives Atool To Create High Cross Admit Data Which Can Managed For Good Avg Yld. Cooking Nu,mbers For Glory.</p>
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<p>P graduates seem have their fair share among student bodies of top professional schools.</p>
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Almost one out of every seven students in the new fall class at Harvard Law came from, you guessed it, Harvard College. And it doesn't stop there: According to Weekend Journal's survey, add in Ivy rivals Yale and Princeton and the top three schools account for more than 750 students at our 15 grad schools, out of a pool of 5,100 openings.
<p>Specifically at Harvard graduate schools (law, business e.g.), H grads are overproportionately represented (taking differing class sizes into account) in this top group (i.e. of HYP) - whatever the reason, the propensity of H undergrads to remain at H for grad school may be somewhat higher, but it may also be that on average H grads are somewhat easier accepted into H grad school(s). For the entire field of top professional schools the count is probably more even.</p>
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<p>Specifically at Harvard graduate schools (law, business e.g.), H grads are overproportionately represented (taking differing class sizes into account) in this top group (i.e. of HYP) - whatever the reason, the propensity of H undergrads to remain at H for grad school may be somewhat higher, but it may also be that on average H grads are somewhat easier accepted into H grad school(s)<<</p>
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<p>It's probably a combination of both. The H students, having enjoyed their 4 undergrad years, want to to continue their education there. And Harvard, having liked and chosen these kids the first time around, still likes them and is glad to have them back.</p>