More rape survivors' letters, more massive failure to take assault victims seriously

[momofthreeboys]

Yes, we have that provision in Michigan - someone in a position of authority etc., I hadn’t thought about that although 17 still seems pretty old. The sex offender registry is severe, but she’s very lucky she did not get any jail time.

[HarvestMoon1]

…has 7 kids and three ex-husbands? That is a train wreck.

LOL I assume that will still be your point of view in 47 days?

[Cardinal_Fang]

Why was the link in post #145 removed, and can someone repost it?

[HarvestMoon1]

It hasn’t been removed. Click on the word “Here’s.”

[dstark]

https://www.ageofconsent.net/states/tennessee

[Cardinal_Fang]

Thanks, @HarvestMoon1.

I’m trying to think what sentence I’d expect for a male faculty member who performed oral sex (I’m assuming that’s what’s meant by “performing sex acts”) on five 17-year-old students.

[HarvestMoon1]

Your guess is as good as mine – what we might expect and what might be rendered don’t seem to equate anymore.

[Cardinal_Fang]

Well… regardless of what sentence she got, what sentence would be right for a faculty member who gives oral sex to five 17-year-old students, if those students were willing?

[momofthreeboys]

Interesting to see the age of consent in various states. I knew it was 16 in Michigan and i guess somehow i thought that was more the norm…15 or 16. Interesting to see how many states have 17 or 18 as age of consent.

Probably depends on the state Cardinal Fang or at least it appears that way. The prof and the student might be in violation of the college/uni honor code, but the legality of it probably depends on the age of consent for the particular state…or at least that is what it looks like on surface.

[Cardinal_Fang]

IMO, the offense here is that she was a faculty member and they were students. If she were some member of the community unconnected with these boys, her correct sentence in my view would be zero days in jail and zero days on probation.

[HarvestMoon1]

^^^

And many state statutes dealing with statutory rape do make that distinction.

[Cardinal_Fang]

@momofthreeboys, the Marquita Alston case concerned a public high school, not a college.

[momofthreeboys]

The courts are getting onboard. It is becoming clear that some colleges and universities are operating in a fundamentally unfair manner. This happens to be between two men at Brandeis and is a good illustration that the unfairness can be inherent in this quasi-judicial process and the judge says:

During a lengthy opinion detailing his reasons for rejecting Brandeis’s motion to dismiss Doe’s lawsuit, U.S. District Court Judge Dennis F. Saylor IV ripped the school for “appear[ing] to have substantially impaired, if not eliminated, an accused student’s right to a fair and impartial process.”

“Because the procedures employed by Brandeis did not afford the accused ‘basic fairness,’ the substantive result reached as a result of that process is open to serious doubt,” Saylor added. However, the complaint also raises serious concerns as to the substantive result, even if one assumes that the process was otherwise procedurally fair.”