Morehead vs. Robertson

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<p>Really? They’re crazy. I know UNC Chapel Hill doesn’t have much of an international profile, but it is very well respected in many parts of the US, and somewhat difficult to get into from out of state. </p>

<p>Anyone who disputes that it is prestigious is being myopic, I think.</p>

<p>The point was that someone might debate the choice of your word “moderately” not the prestigious part. It’s well regarded in almost all circles, often referred to as a public Ivy, and you might notice listed as one of the top 20 universities with MIT and other on the CC board. But that really wasn’t the point of this thread and why I did not elaborate earlier.</p>

<p>Some older threads do a good job of discussing some of the differences, such as this one: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-north-carolina-chapel-hill/851990-robertson-morehead.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-north-carolina-chapel-hill/851990-robertson-morehead.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In terms of prestige, I think it’s a bit like asking whether Yale or Princeton is more prestigious. Sure, if forced to choose Yale is more prestigious and well-known, but choosing one over the other simply based on prestige would be pretty silly, in my opinion. I don’t think anyone would ever think you were less qualified because you went to Princeton instead of Yale, and I think the same applies to the Robertson and the Morehead.</p>

<p>You’re right, this is a hijack … but I never could say no to a hijack!</p>

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<p>All true … but that doesn’t make it ‘very prestigious’.</p>

<p>Look, UNC Chapel Hill is a very good and respected university with a following in the South-East and mid-Atlantic especially.</p>

<p>I guess prestige goes in three stages:</p>

<p>i Internationally recognised
ii Nationally recognised
iii Regionally recognised</p>

<p>Group i has to be reserved for places that almost anyone, anywhere is likely to have heard of with respect: Harvard, Yale, Oxford, Stanford, Heidelberg… these are ‘very prestigious’</p>

<p>Maybe group ii includes places that are nationally known but have little presence outside their country … Dartmouth? The Naval Academy? Maybe even Duke?</p>

<p>I’d say UNC Chapel Hill is in group iii – very well respected, but not really known in many areas of the U.S. … many people in the North-East and the west coast simply will not have heard of it, or will not have heard of it outside of a basketball context at least. Like Vanderbilt or UC San Diego or UMass … much more regionally than nationally prominent.</p>

<p>After all, many people in those other regions will not even instantly know what the letters ‘UNC’ stand for. (Look at the ‘how did people react when you told them you were going to UNC’ thread).</p>

<p>So I stand by the ‘moderately prestigious’ label. To go somewhere very prestigious means that you just have to utter one word (like ‘Yale’ or ‘MIT’) and everyone more or less, without further explanation will know that you went to a top-knotch school. UNC Chapel Hill is not (yet) in that league.</p>

<p>Well, we all hope you are done now …</p>

<p>LOL. Anybody else have an ax to grind? Geez.</p>

<p>… so glad that all the UNC students I know IRL are extremely proud to attend Carolina.</p>

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<p>As am I! I just pride myself on being realistic.</p>

<p>‘Hope for the best, plan for the worst’ and all that.</p>

<p>Just to be clear - you were born in 1986, per your stats, and you are still attending UNC?</p>

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<p>That’s correct! Why?</p>

<p>I was born in 83 (I’ll be 27 this summer) and am transferring to UNC this fall to complete my undergrad. What’s the point about age? Besides trying to take a lame shot at keepit, of course.</p>

<p>AND, even though I sometimes find keepittoyourself to be irritating, he’s (I’m assuming keepit is male, sorry if I’m wrong) got a point on this one both about prestige and UNC’s personal prestige. I’d never heard of UNC until about 2 years ago when I met someone who graduated from there. UNC isn’t prestigious to me, it’s just the best school for what I want to do with my life. And I was raised and have lived west of the Mississippi for all but 2 years of my life. UNC’s prestige among most everyday people is very regional. </p>

<p>Plus anyone who does something and takes prestige as a factor seems unlikely to be in it for the original intentions and spirit of whatever that thing may be, scholarship or otherwise. It’s like prepping for a form of name dropping later. Oh well I was a such and such scholar or I met so and so or I graduated from where ever. That’s all great, but at the end of the day people need to show if they know their *<strong><em>. None of that means much if you don’t know what the *</em></strong> you’re doing. </p>

<p>On another note, I find it discouraging so many of you are so damn snarky to keepit for expressing another side of things. Keepit has some good points, but everyone is getting so butthurt that they instead to look over those to grind their own ax. Keepit has a hardon for pointing out things he finds unsatisfactory with UNC. Again, I’m not a huge fan of keepit because he goes too far with pointing out flaws sometimes, but he IS realistic. You can be proud of something and yet find fault with it. For a great example, the US government. In fact, pointing out fault is a sign of pride because you want it to get even better. The status quo isn’t acceptable for something that means something to you. </p>

<p>I SERIOUSLY hope those of you bashing on keepit are NOT representative of what my experience with others will be like at UNC. I don’t want to be around people who accept the status quo and get butthurt over criticism otherwise. Get some preparation-h for the butthurt. UNC isn’t perfect. (Ask the transfer students about their experiences with admissions this year. Complete disaster.) </p>

<p>There’s other sides to everything, and a sign of intelligence and maturity is being able to recognize and acknowledge that in an opposing argument.</p>

<p>It wasn’t a lameshot - just trying to get a perspective on his point of view and where his posts are coming from. The problem with Keepit is that he keeps trying to hijack threads and spin them, and attack other posters. It gets old. Most of us are just trying to answer the posters questions, etc. He seems to take joy in hijacking, diverting, and attacking - that’s all. He seems to like to stir the pot. Criticism is one thing, constructive criticism another, and there there is rude. I have not run into him much - so trying to ascertain where his point of view is coming from. Of course there are sides to everything - usually many sides. The point of the board is to raise the issues, express opinions, and it would be nice if the attacks could stop. That’s all. I don’t find it useful or welcome.</p>

<p>I think most of us in undergrad would agree that we chose UNC because it was the right school for us, not because people in Russia and Australia and wherever else on the planet have heard of it. Of course, there are always going to be people who don’t think UNC is prestigious enough for them - a friend of mine who went to a super elite boarding school was bummed about coming to UNC (she didn’t get in to any of her Ivy League choices), so she’s now transferring to a school that’s more “elite” in her mind. Whatever floats your boat.</p>

<p>I think most of us in undergrad would also agree that UNC is not perfect, but no university is going to be 100% for anybody. There are certainly things about UNC I would change, but I hardly sit around coming up with a list of strikes against my school. I’m a glass half-full kind of girl.</p>

<p>The Morehead and the Robertson are super impressive scholarships, and if you are lucky enough to get nominated for them, give yourself a massive pat on the back.</p>

<p>I’m sure a sign of intelligence and maturity is also not getting into fights on an anonymous internet forum. Guess we all need to grow up a bit, huh?</p>

<p>And if I never read the word “butthurt” again, it will be too soon. No offense.</p>

<p>BarkingAtHeels Thank you!</p>

<p>MaterMia You are right, I do like to stir the pot. Who doesn’t, at least a bit?</p>

<p>But you write…

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<p>Part of this is, frankly, complete ********. Maybe I do get on board on hijacks, but when have I ever attacked other posters? Even once? I disagree with people stridently but I don’t think I’ve ever made a personal attack first, even once.</p>

<p>So do you have anything to back up this accusation? Why, I might even call what you’re doing a personal attack…</p>

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<p>The point is that there can be very good reasons for choosing ‘elite’ schools in this sense, not just ego.</p>

<p>What if you plan to get a job in Russia or Australia?</p>

<p>Keepit likes to stir the pot, BUT YOU GUYS KEEP ENCOURAGING HIM. Someone can only affect you as much as you let them, and frankly, you guys let him. You give him a response. So for you to be like, oh keepit likes to stir the pot, stop letting him get to you, geez. He succeeds because you let him. I like the word butthurt BECAUSE it gets to people and gets their attention. Same reason why keepit likes doing what he does.</p>

<p>I didn’t make my post to get in on some “fight”. I made my post because I felt like what I had to say would add something to everyone’s point of view by making them stop for a second. Apparently not, besides keepit, who despite my insistence that he’s a PITA, thanked me anyways for my post. Keepit got it. Who would have guessed?</p>