Most Dangerous Ivy League Schools

<p>According to the Daily Beast [with most dangerous first]...
Harvard
Penn
Brown
Columbia
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Cornell</p>

<p>This is a silly list, since none of these schools is dangerous by any sensible definition. What criteria are they using?</p>

<p>Another meaningless list. No surprise that the more urban campuses are at the top of this list, but that doesn’t mean they are dangerous places. All kids that go to urban schools need to know the basics of personal safety, but I am quite comfortable with the security of my daughter and my niece at Harvard. Cambridge, MA is a much safer neighborhood than the urban schools that I attended many, many years ago and I never witnessed any crime.</p>

<p>Sorry for being redundant. I apparently cross posted with Hunt.</p>

<p>Yes, if you graded these schools’ locations on a scale of urban-to-rural, there would be a nearly perfect correlation with the list. At Harvard last year, there was one murder - a non-student drug dealer who was killed on university property by a non-student rival. There were 29 robberies, 14 rapes, and 28 aggravated assaults. These were all terrible incidents to be sure, but those statistics represent an urban community of 19,411, and not all the victims of the reported crimes were students. For the whole U.S. in 2009, the averages for a community that size would be about the same for murders and robberies. The national average for rapes would be about half that number, but that’s fairly typical when comparing college populations to the population at large. The national aggravated assault rate was about double Harvard’s. In other words, the “most dangerous” location on this list above is fairly comparable to, or a little safer than, the country as a whole.</p>

<p>This list seems silly to me also. I am quite familar with all of the locations and I don’t consider any of them to be dangerous. Penn and Yale both have some sketchy areas nearby so some urban smarts are required but, as long as a student is exercising good judgement, there should not be a problem. Columbia’s neighborhood used to be quite sketchy but has gone more upscale in recent years–nevertheless, reasonably judgment should be exercised. Harvard and Brown are in urban environments but rather nice ones; certainly not unreasonably dangerous. I live near Brown and would have no problem living near Harvard Square (except for the traffic!). You will find a lot of panhandlers near Harvard (although not as many as at Yale and Penn) but, for the most part, they are harmless. Dartmouth and Princeton are in idylic environments but, of course, crime can and does happen anywhere. Dangerous is simply not a word I would apply to any of these campuses.</p>

<p>Looking for dangerous? Try Temple U after dark. Broad Street in Philly is downright scary.</p>

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<p>Our campus is fine, and we seem to have less issues with students being targeted than Penn lately. Pretty funny you trash us, but New Haven is okay. New Haven? LOLOLOLOLOL</p>

<p>The list is insipid and the crack about Temple inaccurate.</p>

<p>Drinking is significantly a more endemic part of the social structure at Dartmouth than at other Ivies and poses a considerable threat to vulnerable students–homesick, stressed, impressionable, approval-seeking, addictive personalities, etc.</p>

<p>By the way, I had no intention of trashing Temple U which I think is a fine public institution. And I have no doubt that security is strong there, making the campus itself reasonably safe. But I don’t like the neighborhood, and would not walk down that part of Broad street (off campus) after dark. I know of a number of former Temple students who were robbed/mugged off campus in that neighborhood.</p>

<p>This list is stupid.</p>

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<p>What does ‘that neighborhood’ mean? North Philly is a huge neighborhood in Philadelphia. There are bad parts and there are fine parts. The area around our campus is completely fine. I walk around Broad at all hours with no issues whatsoever. I’ve never been mugged, robbed, shot, stabbed, or even yelled at. I dont know anyone here who has had any of those issues. Do we have students who cant afford to pay for nicer housing that live in shadier parts of North Philly? Sure.</p>

<p>I mean really, what’s next? You know someone who got mugged in New York? That’s nice. My friend was pistol-whipped on Comm Ave in Boston. So what?</p>

<p>Dont take a crap on us, when Penn has plenty of their own issues. We dont have hoodlums running around threatening students with screwdrivers.</p>

<p>We’re spending over a billion dollars to upgrade our campus over the next 10 years. I cant wait til people like you have nothing bad to say about our campus. </p>

<p>The whole ‘unsafe’ thing gets really tiresome.</p>

<p>A billion dollars? I’ll see your billion and raise it to 1.95 billion ;)</p>

<p>We’re at $1.2B, but it’ll probably end up being more.</p>

<p>[Temple?s</a> $1.2 billion project - Philadelphia Business Journal](<a href=“http://philadelphia.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/stories/2010/04/19/story1.html]Temple?s”>http://philadelphia.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/stories/2010/04/19/story1.html)</p>