MOST Diverse College/University

[Coolbrezze]

<p>I would say Columbia also, though the student body is so small ( freshmen entering class) where I rather not.</p>

[gthopeful]

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…I think you have a lot to learn. There are plenty of ways to learn OUTSIDE the classroom. That’s why colleges are learning environments, not merely a set of classrooms. Even though every person is different, meeting and learning from all sorts of people - including minorities - is a part of life that should be celebrated and a part of learning that should be accentuated. This is especially true in our globalized world. Going to a school with, say, ONLY white or black or Asian students isn’t helping promote learning, tolerance, understanding, and familiarity with experiences from around the world and around the country.

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<p>Once again, stop drinking the diversity Kool Aid and respond to what I actually said. Conveniently, you have reformulated my argument into an argument against going to school with any minorities (or at the very least you have decided to respond with an unprovoked ode to diversity), whereas I actually said what’s the difference between 500 and 100 in terms of education?</p>

[applicannot]

<p>The difference between 500 and 100 is variety, just the same as the difference between going to a college with 300 students total or 40,000 students total.</p>

[Georgia_Girl]

<p>USC publishes race/ethnicity data on their website. These are statistics for the freshman class which entered fall of 2008.</p>

<p>Latino/Hispanic 14%
Asian/Asian American 25%
Native American/Pac. Islander 2%
African American 7%
Caucasian 45%
International Students 6%
Not Indicated 1%</p>

<p>First generation college 11%</p>

<p>Over 60% of the entering freshman received financial aid. More than 24% received merit based scholarships.</p>

<p>Public high school 62%
Private or parochial 38%</p>

<p>Different high schools represented: 1,311</p>

[hmom5]

<p>These days the most diverse are probably the ivies and other big endowment, 100% need met schools that build student bodies via social engineering. They have the truly wealthy (state schools usually don’t have many from this group), the truly poor (private schools often lack many of these), better representation from all of the states and many countries than most and well considered racial/ethnic/religious breakdowns.</p>

[SSobick]

<p>University of Florida</p>

<p>[University</a> of Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Florida]University”>University of Florida - Wikipedia)</p>

[tk21769]

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If a kid from an working class family wanted to find a good school with a balance of wealthy, low, and middle income students, would you consider him misguided?

Has anyone shown statistics for socioeconomic diversity? No, I’ve seen a bunch of posts about which schools have what percentage of blacks, hispanics and native americans. Let’s not argue something that’s not present in this thread.

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<p>You’ve sidestepped the question. I was not arguing for or against economic diversity (and in fact, if we could find those statistics, I think we’d be very interested). I was asking you to reflect on why you are singling out racial diversity, in particular, as something you consider an irrelevant factor? Is economic diversity an irrelevant factor (as I framed it above)? </p>

<p>Do you think you’d get the best education at a school where everyone else was just like you? If you think it is only a difference of ideas and outlook that matters, do you think race, ethnicity, and income have no important bearing on that?</p>

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Why should having 500 instead of 100 of a minority enhance the perceived quality of college education? I mean education is the point of college, right?

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<p>Right, there is no magic number. However, if you can’t measure something, you can’t improve it. Any school can claim to support a diverse student body. How do we substantiate that claim?</p>

[applicannot]

<p>Here’s a question:</p>

<p>African Americans make up 13.5% of the US population. How many schools (aside from HBCUs, although they are clearly notable but lack diversity in many cases) have populations of African American students that are 13.5% or higher? I’m curious. The most I’ve seen is around 10%, the smallest I’ve seen is 3.4% (Berkeley!). I think there are a lot of reasons that African Americans are under-represented (and I do blame “black culture” for some of it - a lot of it), but I’m curious at which schools they are fully represented, if any.</p>

[pierre0913]

<p>UNC-Greensboro: 21% African American
University of New Orleans: 20%
University of Maryland - Baltimore County: 16%
University of Louisiana At Lafayette: 19%
UAB: 30%
Temple University 17%
St. John’s University: 16%
Oglethorpe University: 23%</p>

[pierre0913]

<p>Mercer University - Macon: 17%
City University of New York - Brooklyn College: 27%
Berea College 18%
Agnes Scott College: 21%</p>

[Schmaltz]

<p>Step #1: Decry all forms of racial distinctions. Delare for all to hear, “It makes no difference to me what race a person is.” Proclaim loudly, “People are all the same regardless of race.” </p>

<p>Step #2: Keep detailed stats on the racial makeup of every group and organization. Allow race to be a huge factor in every decision. Avoid anything that doesn’t have the right racial mix. Avoid anybody who disagrees with you.</p>

[tk21769]

<p>The Common Data Set (section B2) is the standard way for schools to report the composition of the student body as a whole (and of the entering class) across 7 racial/ethnic categories. It does not list figures for every student group and organization.</p>

<p>You can choose to use this information as you see fit. You can use it to avoid schools where the racial/ethnic composition is very diverse, if you are so inclined.</p>

[applicannot]

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Step #1: Decry all forms of racial distinctions. Delare for all to hear, “It makes no difference to me what race a person is.” Proclaim loudly, “People are all the same regardless of race.” </p>

<p>Step #2: Keep detailed stats on the racial makeup of every group and organization. Allow race to be a huge factor in every decision. Avoid anything that doesn’t have the right racial mix. Avoid anybody who disagrees with you.

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<p>I get what you’re saying. And it does make perfect sense (in a nonsensical way). However, for numerous reasons, minorities (except Asians) are underrepresented at colleges and universities (I’m NOT talking jobs here). Back in the day it was tied to race, now it’s usually tied to minority “culture” and socioeconomic status. If we removed Affirmative Action - though I agree the current system needs fixed - colleges would be very white, very rich, very homogeneous places. Yes, a two white rich people can bring a lot of diversity - but through a rich black guy and a poor white girl into the mix and you’ve got a whole new set of life experiences.</p>

[kwu]

<p>I found the following links helpful.</p>

<p>[Best</a> Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-economic-diversity-among-top-ranked-schools]Best”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-economic-diversity-among-top-ranked-schools)</p>

<p>[Best</a> Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/liberal-arts-economic-diversity-among-top-ranked-schools]Best”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/liberal-arts-economic-diversity-among-top-ranked-schools)</p>

[gadad]

<p>Back to the original question. If you’re truly asking about all forms of diversity - not just racial diversity among the major racial groups in the U.S. - then Harvard is probably the most diverse campus in America. That would be diverse racially, ethnically, socioeconomically, internationally, religiously, etc. And white Americans there make up fewer than 50% of the student body. Because they’re at the top of the admissions food chain, Harvard has the opportunity to craft entering classes that represent the full range of human backgrounds globally.</p>

[Plainsman]

<p>The USA is about 70% non-Hispanic white. Any campus “whiter” than that is not one I’d want to be at because it is not diverse enough. However, any campus where the largest demographic group is a race other than white is also a place I would never want to be and that includes Cal-Berkeley and UCLA.</p>

[applicannot]

<p>I’ve learned that even top tier schools with great financial aid aren’t diverse. For example, 40% of Princeton’s undergrads are on financial aid. But Princeton’s financial aid extends up to $200,000. That means 60% of all students come from families with incomes higher than $200,000, and how many of the 40% on financial aid come from families with incomes above $100,000?</p>

[Damon1570]

<p>cuny hunter is d i v e r s e</p>

[early_college]

<p>I was just going to say, all and most of the CUNY’s are VERY diverse.</p>