It’s surprising that only one Ivy made it, and it’s not the one you would expect. Many T20s made it including Stanford, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Rice & CMU.
@CupCakeMuffins you may want to recount. Last time I checked #20 and #7 played in the same sports conference.
List would be different if SES diversity were used or added.
Yes, it is. Especially when both Columbia and Cornell are on the list. Which one was kicked out of the Ivy League recently?
25% of the schools in one conference being on a list of the top 2/3 of 1% of diverse campuses is hardly worth an “only” claim.
(Side note - this reminds me of a photo I posted once showing how “diverse” my team was. Me, a white male, and 28 Indian males, taken in our Mumbai office. I cringed whenever our firm published our “diversity” claims, given the lack of African-American, Hispanic, etc. HR didn’t appreciate my photo).
I missed Columbia. However, usually Harvard and Brown are the ones talking about diversity so why they haven’t achieved it but others did?
Sorry! Missed that.
That would be a different list though equally important. This list is about racial and ethnic diversity.
What does “made it” mean when only 25 of over 4000 colleges are on the list? Number 26 didn’t make it?
Achieved a healthy diversity compared to other schools.
Healthy means top 25? 77.9% is healthy but 77.8% is not? I hope I’m missing something.
In general, for top colleges, the ivies have a pretty racially diverse student body. Not sure what the point is?
India internally has considerable ethnic, linguistic, and religious diversity, though it may or may not be present in any particular grouping. Such diversity may not be as apparent to (or seen as relevant by) non-Indian people. There is also the dimension of caste (the old tradition of hereditary job types) that may not be as apparent to others, but is the subject of sometimes divisive “affirmative action” type politics. Of course, there is also SES…
I agree, I don’t see the point. Ivies are generally in the 55-60% nonwhite range. That’s fairly diverse, especially when compared to some of the Patriot League or NESCAC schools, for example.
That same thought process doesn’t apply for many people when looking at rankings.
And the USA as a whole.
For comparison, in 2017, the US population of 18-24 year olds was 54% white, and that of 5-17 year olds was 51% white.
It’s not like ones who get admitted are representing whole white population, 43% of white admits are from privileged groups. That limits odds of other white students. No?
“A new study notes that in the six admissions cycles between 2014 and 2019, 43% of white students admitted to Harvard were either legacies, recruited athletes, children of faculty and staff, or students on the Dean’s “Interest List”—a list of applicants whose relatives have donated to Harvard, the existence of which only became public knowledge in 2018.”
That higher privilege applicants (of any race/ethnicity) have an advantage over others in admission to the most selective private colleges is not (or should not be) news. The effect extends beyond direct admission preferences for unearned privilege-correlated aspects like legacy to the fact that parental money tends to be used to improve opportunities and remove barriers when kids try to earn their merit.
Of course, many people also tend to have a view of privilege versus disadvantage that views those of higher SES than themselves as having what they see as undeserved privilege, while denying that those of lower SES than themselves tend to face more disadvantages and barriers than they do. The common tendency of the self described “upper middle class that does not get college financial aid” or “donut hole” (approximately the top 5% except the top 0.5% income and wealth) resenting both the higher and lower SES on these forums is an example.
Not all donut hole families are full pay nor all aid recipients are $0 EFC full rides, it’s about the difference between the EFC and real time ability to pay that.
Many of the schools on the list are tech schools, which attract a lot of foreign students - IIT, NYIT, NJIT. Even the two Ivies have really big engineering schools.
This doesn’t make these schools the big melting pot. My daughter went to a tech school and I asked her if she interacted with many of the foreign students. She said no because the language barrier makes it difficult, especially to socialize. She worked on a project with a student from Taiwan and she said they spent so much (more) time on the project that she couldn’t socialize afterward. My daughter is Chinese (doesn’t speak any dialect) so she’d be included in the diversity numbers, but she didn’t add anything to the ‘world view’ discussed in the report.