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Of course its easy to reduce what 2007mom is saying by dismissing it as something that "doesn't make sense."
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<p>No, I mean, I literally could not understand the meaning of what she said. As in, her choice of words and the order she put them in did not produce coherent sentences.</p>
<p>And you're right, I don't have to be on here. The reason I sometimes spend time to go on this board is because I remember how difficult college admissions was and I like to give people advice, both in terms of what kind of schools they should be looking for as well as what they can expect from the admissions process. That's why it bothers me when I go on here and find someone who's only care is "which sorority is the most elite," first because that is NOT what you should be concerned with right now and two because you're gonna come to Dartmouth and help perpetuate this kind of crap while a brainless administration claims the Greek system's all better because Zeta Psi is gone.</p>
<p>Despite some harsh wording, I have to say that I agree with Xanatos on pretty much everything, also including the whole bit about socialization within and between frats.</p>
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No, I mean, I literally could not understand the meaning of what she said. As in, her choice of words and the order she put them in did not produce coherent sentences.
<p>hi guys! by reading all your posts, I gather that during our freshman year, we decide which sororities interest us? how exactly do we do that? are we invited to sorority events or what? thanks for the clarification!</p>
<p>Here is the deal. Kappa Kappa Gamma and the local sorority are the best. That is it. It is a joke for folks to write otherwise. When you rush at Dartmouth, those are the two you hope to get into. Now, the rest of the nasty thread is most likely from folks who did not get into either house, or didnât get a date from a woman who was a member of either house. Duh.</p>
<p>âMy sister is a junior at Penn, sheâs in Delta Delta Delta which is the hottest on campus there. Her friends are also in Alpha Chi Omega and Kappa Alpha Theta at Penn, also elite at Penn. Iâd like the equivalent of those types of sororities at Dartmouth. Let me know which are which? Whatâs tri-delt like at Dartmouth (as Iâm aware it varies from school to school). Which fraternity has the hottest guys? Thanks guys and canât wait to see you all soon!â</p>
<p>XOXO
Dartgirl</p>
<p>Not to put more fuel to scortched ground but: </p>
<p>If your original post hadnât come across like part of a script to one of those exploitative âcheerleader/nationallampoon,â movies, you might have gotten some answers. Honestly though, âMy sister blah blah blah hottest on campus, her friends blah blah blah, also elite at Penn . . . Which fraternities have the hottest guys?â</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>If you arenât a â â â â â then all I can say is way to check your intellectualism at the door honey . . .</p>
<p>XOXO though</p>
<p>P.S. If youâre an incoming freshman then call yourself a '16 not a '12</p>
<p>Wow, thx. How embarassing. Not much to say except, lesson learned. I guess Iâll go back to viewing and keep my comments to myself for a whlie . . . ouch!</p>
<p>Hey Downeasterdad,
If it makes you feel any betterâŠI, too, was reading this thread and I didnât realize the dates were, well, ealier in time. Think I came âthis closeâ to doing the same thing on one of the other boards (maybe Amherst).</p>
<p>Donât know if you have a current child at Dartmouth (my daughter has applied and she waits with breath baited) but the topic is certainly of interest and concern to dads like us.</p>
<p>I just wish that Downeasterdad, as an adult, did not spew vitriol onto a nervous 18 yr old girl. Even though the concern of this freshman girl was not necessarily of a serious student who was interested in matters of the mind, and she did sound like a (Im dating myself here) valley girl, is that a reason for expressing oneself in such terms and using âhoneyâ as a derogatory term? Kind of like kicking a puppy? If your daughter makes a thoughtless comment, would you be happy with a 50 yr old guy saying âhoneyâ to her? And speaking of kicking - intelectualism?, whats that? Did you mean to say âoneâs intelectâ or âintelligenceâ?</p>
<p>Youâre absolutely right. I got carried away and I apologize. That said, my venom was not just based on the original post but the other posts she left in the ensuing threadstorm. Yes, the âhoney,â comment was out of line, I guess I let what the OPâs message says about mis/preconceptions about status on campus get the best of me.</p>
<p>Iâm new at this and Iâm learning how to curb my opinions daily.</p>
<p>Again, it was not my intention to offend anyone, I just wanted to emphasize the absurdity of the language in the original post.</p>
<p>Again, it was not my intention to offend anyone, I just wanted to emphasize the absurdity of the language in the original post. â understand, shake hands ;)</p>
<p>I thought it was a script out of one of those 80s sorority girl movies too. Typically the moral of many of them were against school snobs and superficial preps. There were lots of those unless were into horror and the stories about chopping up college students or a bunch getting killed on group camping trips.</p>
<p>This was fun. I think dartgirl had some valid points actually since she seemed to be more open and honest than everyone else in this thread. I think itâs refreshing to hear people who arenât affraid to speak their minds. I would perhaps also be a bit offended if I went to Dartmouth and hadnât slept enough, but I have learned to try and not start these petty fights on the internet since they rarely lead anywhere. Or, dartgirl was just a very committed trollerâŠ</p>
<p>mhmm, Original script is nearly 4 years old . . . dartgirl has trolled off into cyberspace . . . about 4 years older and hopefully wiser. No worries about anyoneâs passion. Values of Dart. students were demonstrated, competitive yet supportive, not a cut-throat environment â averse to âkilling kittensâ (other than contemporary hazing investigations). Other Greek scenes are what they are. Downeasterdad is not lashing out at an 18 year old, rather the ghost of a â â â â â . All those helicopter parents that got sucked in . . . Black Hawk down.</p>
<p>The brutally honest opinion of an affiliated female alum:</p>
<p>I see a lot of posts about rush at Dartmouth being very different from rush at other schools, that âeveryone is accepted equallyâ and the process is NBD. Coming from a female graduate, unless you are COMPLETELY socially inept or develop an extremely bad reputation during freshman year, it is true you will end up in a house. The rush process is generally different, and IMO better for males - you can hang out at the frats your freshman year and try to make friends with brothers. A lot of guys know where they going basically before the process even starts. Unless you are a varsity athlete, a girl with a lot of upperclassmen female friends, or part of a group that is typically, er, dirty rushed into Kappa (i.e., a member well dressed NYC prep school clique that exists every year), you end up going into the process blind as a girl. It can be very stressful and seemingly random. I had a lot of friends freshman year, typically consider myself to be easygoing and friendly, and I was only invited back to one house for the final night of rush. I had other friends with the same experience. </p>
<p>To pretend that there is no forced social hierarchy at all due to greek life at Dartmouth lends a bit too much credit to the student body. A lot of 19 year olds just arenât that mature, smart as they may be. Social dynamics definitely change after rush. Much socialization revolves around oneâs greek house instead of dorms or other activities, and the houses have stereotypes whether people will admit it out loud or not. If you arenât happy at your house, it can have a very negative effect on your social experience.</p>
<p>My advice is, in case rush doesnât work out or your house ends up not being a good fit, GET INVOLVED in an organization that meets regularly where you can branch out and meet friends with common interests. DREAM was big when I was there, as is the outing club. Join a club sport or acappella group. Make friends with as many people as possible freshman year. Put yourself out there. I found it hard to meet new people after freshman year, but I think I was also too shy.</p>