<p>Berkeley ranked 26th among American university campuses with 3,506 international students-9.9 percent of its student body-in undergraduate, graduate and professional programs.</p>
<p>UC Berkeley will increase its nonresident student population as part of a UC systemwide effort to combat an $813 million cumulative cut in state funding in fiscal years 2008-09 and 2009-10. This year, the campus year admitted 300 more international students than it did last year, a 10.6 percent increase. </p>
<p>USC is able to provide a “comprehensive financial aid program” and awards to international students and has engaged in “aggressive recruitment” in Japan and China, which are top originating countries for international students in California. </p>
<p>Berkeley offers only modest financial support for international students in the form of small grants and loans. International students are also excluded from federal and state government financial aid programs.</p>
<p>Again, very interesting data, xiggi. Thanks for retrieving it. Without a doubt, multiple factors account for the destinations of these students, including immigration patterns, as you suggested, as well as recruitment, home country funding and host institution financial aid, reputation in certain fields, etc. </p>
<p>I only wish American students would take advantage of this great educational resource. When I was an undergrad, my interactions with foreign students were some of my most valuable educational experiences. Unfortunately, most of my fellow American students had very little interest in getting to know foreign students, and I’ve see this pattern continue today at several other universities with which I’m familiar.</p>
<p>“It seems the Midwest is popular among international students.” </p>
<p>Hardly surprising:</p>
<p>4 University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign Champaign IL 6,570
5 Purdue University - Main Campus West Lafayette IN 6,136
6 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor Ann Arbor MI 5,790
10 Michigan State University East Lansing MI 4,757
14 Ohio State University - Main Campus Columbus OH 4,583
15 Indiana University - Bloomington Bloomington IN 4,565</p>
Princeton in fact is in the top 10 in the NRC Ph.D. program rankings in four of the five categories, missing only in Biological Sciences which is undoubtedly because of the lack of a Medical School.</p>
<p>The problem with Princeton’s Graduate School prestige is isolated to the PROFESSIONAL programs in Law, Medicine and Business, which do not exist at Princeton. Princeton loses some “institutional” prestige to Stanford and Harvard and who have top 5 programs in each of these Professional schools; Berkeley (top 10 in each counting UCSF as Berkeley’s de facto Med School) and Yale which has the #1 rated Law School and top 20 in the other two.</p>
<p>“It seems the Midwest is popular among international students.
All 4 Great Lakes states (Illinois, Michigan, Ohio and Indiana) hosted and educated 91,327 international students.
Geographically, they are almost equivalent to California.”</p>
<p>Even more, if you add in Minnesota and Wisconsin. At least the international students seem to know that the North Coast isn’t just flyover country, which is more than I can say for the provincials on the East Coast!</p>
<p>INSTITUTIONS WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF FOREIGN STUDENTS
University of Wisconsin at Madison Madison 4,243
University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee Milwaukee 1,074
Marquette University Milwaukee 484
University of Wisconsin at La Crosse La Crosse 362
University of Wisconsin Mequon 260</p>
<p>LEADING PLACES OF ORIGIN FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS
Place of Origin Total Number % Total
China 1,527 21.1
South Korea 1,024 14.1
India 763 10.5
Taiwan 364 5.0
Japan 258 3.6</p>
<p>MINNESOTA</p>
<p>FOREIGN STUDENTS </p>
<h1>18 10,848 (up 9.7%)</h1>
<p>INSTITUTIONS WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF FOREIGN STUDENTS
University of Minnesota at Twin Cities Minneapolis 4,120
St. Cloud State University St. Cloud 1,350
Minnesota State University at Mankato Mankato 636
Minnesota State University – Moorhead Moorhead 408
University of St. Thomas St. Paul 326</p>
<p>**LEADING PLACES OF ORIGIN FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS **
Place of Origin Total Number % Total
China 1,617 16.6
India 1,139 11.7
Nepal 966 9.9
South Korea 929 9.5
Canada 363 3.7</p>
<p>University of Southern California Los Angeles 7,482
University of California, Los Angeles Los Angeles 5,590
Stanford University Stanford 3,976
University of California, Berkeley Berkeley 3,506
Santa Monica College Santa Monica 3,147 … Here’s a surprise</p>
<p>LEADING PLACES OF ORIGIN FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS
Place of Origin Total Number % Total
South Korea 11,186 14.5
China 9,808 12.7
India 9,474 12.3
Japan 6,844 8.9
Taiwan 5,272 6.8</p>
<p>INSTITUTIONS WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF FOREIGN STUDENTS
University of Michigan at Ann Arbor Ann Arbor 5,790
Michigan State University East Lansing 4,757
Wayne State University Detroit 2,632
Western Michigan University Kalamazoo 1,354
Eastern Michigan University Ypsilanti 1,006</p>
<p>LEADING PLACES OF ORIGIN FOR FOREIGN STUDENTS IN THE STATE
Place of Origin Total Number % Total
China 3,556 18.1
India 3,238 16.5
South Korea 2,464 12.5
Canada 2,356 12.0
Taiwan 765 3.9</p>
<p>“All 5 Great Lakes states (Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Wisconsin) hosted 99,974 international students.”</p>
<p>I’m too lazy to check the math---- does the total number also include Minnesota, which is on Lake Superior?</p>
<p>(BTW, Pennsylvania and New York border on the Great Lakes, but, of course, no one considers them to be in the Midwest, just as no one who is from the Midwest should really consider Penn State to be part of the Big 10).</p>
<p>If you keep adding states, the results will look eerily similar to the … Big Twenty conference. Oops, I meant the Big Ten conference, you know the one that will soon stretch from Washington to Maine. :)</p>
<p>I wonder what’s the Nepali connection for Minnesota? (Assuming most of the Nepali students are at U Minnesota, I don’t think Asian studies at U Minn even includes Nepali studies so it doesn’t seem to be tied into that program).</p>
Not surprising to me…it’s arguably the “best” community college and well known to be the top transfer institution to UCs and USC.</p>
<p>
Best Colleges Specialty Rankings: Best Undergraduate Business Programs</p>
<p>1 University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 4.8
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA 4.6
3 University of California–Berkeley Berkeley, CA 4.5
4 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 4.4
5 New York University New York, NY 4.2
5 University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 4.2
7 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 4.1
7 University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 4.1
7 University of Texas–Austin Austin, TX 4.1
10 Cornell University Ithaca, NY 4.0
10 Indiana University–Bloomington Bloomington, IN 4.0
10 University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 4.0</p>
<p>Best Colleges Specialty Rankings: Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs</p>
<p>1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA 4.8
2 Stanford University Stanford, CA 4.7
3 University of California–Berkeley Berkeley, CA 4.6
4 California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA 4.5
4 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 4.5
6 University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Champaign, IL 4.4
7 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 4.3
8 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 4.2
8 Cornell University Ithaca, NY 4.2
8 Purdue University–West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN 4.2 </p>
<p>People who know LA would not be surprised! </p>
<p>However, I am wondering how that works for the context of THIS thread. Perhaps, we should start a new one with “How prestigious is Santa Monica College” in Asia. </p>
<p>What are the chances that Santa Monica College carries a different identity in the “prestige” circles in Asia after a slightly creative conversion of the name? ;)</p>
<p>Re: Post #77:
Many Hmong refugees were resettled in Minnesota around 1975 after the Vietnam war. It’s probably a similar situation with Iraqis in Detroit due to the war in Iraq, though Detroit already had a significant Arab population. I’m not sure about the Nepali connection, however, since Nepali resettlement is relatively recent and one would not expect that a relatively large number of such persons could enter the higher education system in a new country in such a short time. Most Nepali refugees were expelled from Bhutan, as I understand the situation.</p>
<p>What makes places like HYPSM, Berkeley, Caltech and Wharton prestigious in Asia is that they are quite selective and just don’t go by absolute numbers of admitting students but by the quality of their intake. Their alumni also occupy high seats in government, academia and large organizations and corporations. </p>
<p>Wisconsin is not prestigious is Asia. Maybe some Asians have heard of it, but it’s not prestigious. It does not have the respect that Berkeley and Michigan have. If we would have to include Wisconsin amongst the prestigious American schools in Asia, then we should also include Indiana, Purdue, Penn State, Florida and SUNY too. They all are no different to most Asians. But they’re nothing as prestigious as Berkeley or Michigan, even UVa despite that UVa’s engineering is hardly respected.</p>