<p>Read the Peabody link that I posted above so you can understand the difference between a double major and a double degree. If you are going to spend 5 years, you might as well get a double degree, honestly. Show the link to your Dad too: it gives examples of different types of students with an interest in music and, most of the time, something else, and the best academic path for each. Every person is different. I like the essay on the site that is linked because it really gets that across.</p>
<p>Oh, wow! I checked it out and it was really helpful. Thank you so much. I definitely need to show that to my dad. </p>
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<p>Glad it helped! Also want to add that you can apply to schools covering more than one of those options, and decide on your path in late senior year. For instance, one of my kids was torn between conservatory and college, and applied to both. She took the whole month of April in senior year to decide and in the end decided that some of her other academic interests were important to her (not that conservatories don’t have liberal arts, just less of them).</p>
<p>However, she also made sure the college she attended had a music major with a lot of classes as a percentage of her total courseload. She majored in music, with 50% of her classes in music, but also had 50% in other areas of interest.</p>
<p>Conservatories or music schools will have 2/3-3/4 classes in music and you get a BM degree. Colleges and universities with a BA program in music often have 1/4-1/3 of your total classes, in music. Some will have as high as 50%, which was a deciding factor for my daughter.</p>
<p>For you, with an interest in physics and music, you might want to look at the curriculum on websites, look at the required classes for each major, and see what you can fit in 4 years, or 5, and think about double degree versus double major versus major/minor. And whether some music classes plus extracurricular music will satisfy you if you end up focusing on physics.</p>
<p>Lots of options! Good luck!</p>
<p>ps Again, double degree programs mentioned often are Oberlin, Bard, Harvard/NEC, Tufts/NEC, Lawrence, Peabody/John Hopkins, Eastman/Rochester, Michigan (best that I can do to remember).</p>
<p>UGA has the Hodgson School of Music which offers both BA and BM.
<a href=“http://www.music.uga.edu/degree_programs/[/url]”>http://www.music.uga.edu/degree_programs/</a></p>
<p>"The University of Georgia Hugh Hodgson School of Music offers a wide range of undergraduate and graduate programs. Undergraduate programs include the Bachelor of Arts degree with a major in music or interdisciplinary fields and the Bachelor of Music degree with majors in composition, music education, music therapy, theory, or performance. The School also sponsors an annual study abroad program in Italy that is open to all majors. Programs designed for the non-music major include a minor in music at the undergraduate level and a certificate program in music business, as well as opportunities to participate in numerous courses and ensembles. "</p>
<p>Looks like you can pursue many options through this school. The BA in music is only through the Hodgson Music School and is not offered in the Franklin School of Arts and Sciences. You apply to both the university and the music school, and there is an audition for the latter. Note they also offer an interdisciplinary major for a BA (acoustics? you could combine music and physics that way!)</p>
<p>The BM can be in performance, music ed, composition, theory or music therapy. Actually, an undergrad music therapy major isn’t that common. Music therapy often includes some neuroscience and psychology, if that interests you. It is a growing field.</p>
<p>The music minor is 15-18 credits and also requires an audition.</p>
<p>Their physics academic program is titled “Physics and Astronomy”, perfect.
[UGA</a> Physics and Astronomy](<a href=“http://www.physast.uga.edu/]UGA”>http://www.physast.uga.edu/) and [Academic</a> Programs – Undergraduate • UGA Physics and Astronomy - The Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Georgia](<a href=“http://www.physast.uga.edu/academic_programs/undergrad]Academic”>UGA Physics and Astronomy • Undergraduate Program)</p>
<p>"At the Department of Physics and Astronomy at The University of Georgia, we prepare our students for careers in today’s technological society in a number of ways. First, we offer a curriculum of physics courses that provides a thorough grounding in the fundamentals of physics and supply a foundation for further study in almost any science discipline. Second, we emphasize problem solving techniques, which are valuable in any career, in both our lecture and laboratory courses. Finally, we work with you to help tailor your program to match your post-baccalaureate career plans. We offer major programs in Physics as well as in Physics and Astronomy, and each major program has an associated minor program. Double-major programs are also available.</p>
<p>You might wonder “what can I do with a physics degree?” or “how much money will I make?” or “what courses should I take?,” or even “is physics really for me?” The following links might provide some answers to these sorts of questions (these are in red on the site):</p>
<pre><code>Why Study Physics
Another “Why Study Physics” page
Careers in Physics
More Careers
More Careers
More Careers
Physics Is for Youa web brochure from the American Institute of Physics, discussing what physics is and what physicists do.
Physics Careers Informationan archive of discussions between practicing physicists and students. Looking at titles and job descriptions of the participants is informative.
Physics Employment Statisticsvarious statistics and reports on what sorts of jobs students are getting these days (for B.S., M.S., and Ph.D. degrees), salaries, employment rates, and more. Produced by the American Institute of Physics.
JobsLook here for current job listings at the American Physical Society"
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<p>So if you want to study physics (and minor in music or do it on the side), try showing some of these links to your Dad. The text about careers open to physics majors (with or without grad school) might reassure him.</p>
<p>The real goal here is for you to have freedom of choice, right? And giving these sites to your father is a good way for him to learn without you having to tell him!</p>
<p>THANK YOU SO MUCH! You have helped me more than you couldever imagine. Just, thank you so much.</p>
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<p>Applying to colleges that offer both majors will keep your options open. While many students wish for the freedom to choose, for some this isn’t entirely possible. Sometimes the double major is a way students compromise with parents who want a say in the choices. Families have to work this out in their own way.
Sometimes the college application list includes parents’ choices, students’ choices and choices that are acceptable to both. As long as you have colleges that offer both majors, you are keeping your options open. If your father insists that you apply to conservatories as well, go ahead. Then, the decision is out of your hands, for you will either get accepted to them or not, and you can decide on one college for certain in the spring of senior year. Colleges like UGA have general education requirements where you will study a variety of subjects regardless of your major, and you can pursue interests without majoring in them as well.
Deciding on a major as a high school junior is, at best, an idea, not a commitment, because at this stage, you have not had enough higher level classwork to decide for sure. Pursuing your interests is a start, but some students find they don’t like what they are doing, and that they like something else. The first year or two of a college like UGA is spent taking general education requirements and some pre-requisites.
You will be assigned to an advisor who will help you determine your major and check that you are taking what you need. Colleges have orientations for new students where the process is explained to parents.
[Franklin</a> College of Arts and Sciences - Prospective Students](<a href=“http://www.franklin.uga.edu/students/prospective_student_faq.php]Franklin”>http://www.franklin.uga.edu/students/prospective_student_faq.php)
I think for now, the best you can do is agree to apply to colleges that offer a full selection of majors, including physics and music. Once there, you can fine tune your educational path.</p>
<p>Pennylane, UGA is a little different in that the BA in music is in the Hodgson School of Music. So it is a little harder to go to UGA completely open to all possibilities, because the OP will have to decide whether or not to apply to Hodgson and audition.</p>
<p>That said, it would be worthwhile to find out if the OP can apply to UGA and not Hodgson, at first, and still be able to take classes at Hodgson and even apply/audtion after freshman year to enter a music program.</p>
<p>Even a music minor requires application/audition to Hodgson as well as to UGA.</p>
<p>DeDellaLuna, one more thing: applied music lessons are available for credit for all UGA students: [Hugh</a> Hodgson School of Music : Applied Private Music Instruction for UGA Students for Academic Credit](<a href=“http://www.music.uga.edu/lessons/]Hugh”>MUSI 1700/3700 | Hugh Hodgson School of Music) for $325/semester.</p>
<p>Also, some ensembles are open to non-majors: “Performance experience for both music majors and non-majors is offered in ensembles of extensive variety.” Here is the page on ensembles: [url=<a href=“http://www.music.uga.edu/ensembles/]Ensembles.Overview[/url”>Ensembles | Hugh Hodgson School of Music]Ensembles.Overview[/url</a>] This means you could, actually, major in physics and still do music without being in Hodgson at all, I believe. However, a caution would be that whenever a music school is present on campus, students not in the music school sometimes lose out in opportunities. But it would seem that you could still do a lot at UGA.</p>
<p>Please, for your own sake, call UGA and Hodgson specifically to ask about double major, double degree, and transferring from music to physics, or from physics to music, so you can see how flexible your options really are. Admissions folks are usually nice people and would love to talk with you and/or your parent, in person or on the phone.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying that compmom. It seems that UGA is the most affordable choice. I think your advice is spot on, and also it would be good for the parents to take a visit and talk to the people you mentioned at the school. The OP mentioned it is close enough to live at home, so it is close enough for parents to visit.
I think your warning that music majors have priority is important. It is probably true at most schools that faculty and ensembles with limited spaces would take majors first.
Another possibly affordable option is Georgia Tech- but the family would need to look at their options there too. Nearby schools might include Alabama and South Carolina where the OP might qualify for some merit aid. I’m not sure of the logistics, but if one of those options is better suited to the Physics/Music combination, that could be a good choice as well.</p>
<p>I understand the father’s sense of urgency to decide at this point, because applying to conservatories is generally different from the traditional application route, with auditions and possibly earlier deadlines. My concern is that the OP seems to feel more passionate about physics at this point and wants to pursue that possibility. Some students at his/her age are just not ready to decide. </p>
<p>Ultimately these things tend to work out as students pursue their interests along the way. The dillemma is finding options that keep both doors open for now, if that is possible.</p>
<p>Hey, as a a double major with astrophysics and marketing. I totally understand how you feel. But, be honest, astrophysics is pain in the ass, but i do like astrophysics, I wanna learn this sort of thing since i was little. So, I think you should do whatever that make you feel happy. Even double major. Because, if you do love these two majors, i am sure you will regret if you don’t do it!!!</p>
<p>I think that, most likely, applying to both UGA and the UGA’s Hodgson School of Music is a good way to go. Decisions can be made in April of senior year when things sort out. As I found out, even a minor in music at UGA requires application and audition at Hodgson. </p>
<p>Once Dea DellaLuna has applied to both the university and the music school, the options to do music or music and physics are both on the table, and there is the possibility of saying no to the music school and just going to the school of arts and sciences.</p>
<p>However, if DeaDellaLUne, applies only to UGA and not the music school, there will be no option to major or minor in music. If DeaDellaLuna is ready to make that decision earlier, then that’s fine, but if not, then applying to both music school and university will preserve options.</p>
<p>If DeaDellaLuna does decide to pursue only physics/astronomy and not apply to the music school, then there will still be opportunities to take lessons and participate in ensembles but it is important to ask if opportunities are limited for UGA students not in the conservatory. Apparently, many ensembles ARE open to non-majors.</p>
<p>The only other question is, if DeaDellaLuna opts NOT to apply to the music school, but attends UGA for physics, is there a possibility, later on, to get into the music school for either a major or a minor, by, say applying and auditioning after freshman year.</p>
<p>Another question is whether a UGA student in the school of arts and sciences can take classes in the music school a la carte, so to speak, without auditioning.</p>
<p>All questions to be asked on a visit, perhaps.</p>
<p>p.s. a double major in music and physics would probably take 5 years and be tough: it might also be good to ask if they have a double DEGREE.</p>