<p>There is no cut off point for stats... But I'm going to say, regardless, that you should try to get your SAT I's 30 points higher at least (thus making it above an 1800)</p>
<p>Your SAT II in bio might be a slight drawback too. If you re-take that, aim for above a 650. </p>
<p>If your extracurriculars are strong, you stand a chance.</p>
<p>On Freshmen grades; this was taken from [here[/url</a>].
"Actually, DBSchwim and Jimp are both correct - how strange! Freshman grades do matter and the Admissions counselors do look at the freshman year courses and grades.</p>
<p>Yet, freshman grades also do matter in terms of the reported GPA that our Admissions Office will calculate and publish. Every year for statistical purposes we must publish and average GPA of our admitted class -- this is an unweighted 4.0 GPA for sophomore and junior year only.</p>
<p>So, yes freshman grades are evaluated but for statistical purposes they are not factored in."</p>
<p>you give us your grades but gpa would help more. we don't know how your school does gpa so tell us that. aside from that, i think your chances are minute. I'm not trying to be a downer or a pessimist- it's just its easier when people tell you the truth and you accept it rather than people giving you hope when that letter comes in that kills all that hope. I would avoid putting stats up on this site- i've done it too... it's done me no good. If you really want to go to cornell, get your sat's way up (easier said than done). There are thousands of kids applying w/ 2100 and 2200+ scores- remember, you are competing with them. If you get in with your current stats MASSIVE props to you- you did something that made them like you, but if you don't, which is more likely (for everyone really), move on and respect and cherish the schools that give you a chance. good luck w/ everything.</p>
<p>"you give us your grades but gpa would help more. we don't know how your school does gpa so tell us that."</p>
<p>Blue Devil, him giving us his GPA is of little use. Hopkins re-calculates all GPA's into their own 4.0 scale. If his school does otherwise, like a 5.0 scale, then his grades are the best way to evaluate.</p>
<p>i didnt say if you can't get a 2200 you won't get in. I simply said you are competing against people with those scores. Plenty of people get in with lower sats over people with higher sats. it's not the only deciding factor- but it's a major factor. a 1770 is like an 1180 out of 1600. That's treading in the very low realm of cornell's range- like the 4th or 5th percentile, INCLUDING recruits and massive legacy dupes. it's not saying you won't get in- it's just saying it's highly unlikely. </p>
<p>that said, getting a 2200 DOES increase your chances of admittance greatly vs. keeping the 1770; however, this is unfortunately also very unlikely to happen. Once again, it's not impossible, and i would be very impressed if you did it, but a 430 point increase on the sat is like speeding up your mile time from like 13 minutes to under 5. good luck</p>
<p>are you guys kidding? i know people personally who scored in the 17 and 1800s, did some prep work later, and ended up scoring 2000+ on their SAT's the second time around. It takes discipline and strategy.. one of my friends got an 1850 the first time, did some prep work, and ended up with a 2150 final score.. so yeah.. I think he took a course or looked through a book or something.</p>
<p>Simple opinion: This thread is what is wrong with "Chances" threads. Do your best, determine the colleges you are interested in, apply, and keep your fingers crossed. </p>
<p>Don't seek validation from peers, who have no idea how the college admissions process works.</p>
<p>^^ pretty much what i said : "I would avoid putting stats up on this site- i've done it too... it's done me no good."</p>
<p>I said if you could raise your score 430 pts i would be massively impressed- and you have my good wishes that you do so- my opinion is that people are overly optimistic on this site and people get a false hope and when those sat scores and decision letters come in many are devastated by what they were told here. "Pray for the best, expect the worst" mentalitiy works a lot better for me at least- admissions is largely a game of luck and chance. </p>
<p>back to the 430 point increase thing- you have to consider that this is like boxing lennox lewis two times- the first time you didnt train while the second you trained your arse off- you CAN win, but what's the likelihood? this holds true regardless of whether or not I know you- even raising your score 100 or 150 points within a year of prep work is an enormous feat, much less 430. Baby steps is the key- know what you're capable of and get there- even a 1200 looks much nicer than an 1180- and a 1250 that much nicer than a 1200.</p>
<p>It is possible to increase your score by 400+ points.</p>
<p>Last year, I had a 148 on the PSAT, this year, I had a 218 this year
A few months ago, I had an 1890 on the SAT, I recently got a 2250, so it is possible.</p>
<p>But then again, I worked my @ss off too...so</p>
<p>no one said its IMPOSSIBLE, just very very very difficult. You said so yourself, you worked very hard for it.
also...its not exactly difficult to improve 40 pts from 148. congrats on the 2250 tho, thats great.</p>
<p>In spite of all these success stories, there is a much larger group of people who fail to significantly raise their scores. Also, don't take offense but your academic performance has been consistently lacking: a few B's and C's, 580 SAT2, 1770 SAT, etc. I'm not saying this to make you feel bad; it's just that your stats give the impression that the SATI score wasn't a one time thing. Also, you keep mentioning that you scored such and such without preparation, but at some point you need to hit the books and start studying if you want a realistic shot at 2200. Good luck if you do manage it.</p>
<p>well the reason i said no preparation is because i plan to take a prep class and also study...same for the 580 sat and i only have 1 b in 10th and 1 c in eleventh...i dunno if 9th grade counts?</p>
<p>i had no idea this was an example of a consistently lacking academic performance.</p>