My college admissions story (Ongoing, will update periodically)

So I thought this might be a little fun experiment to do. One of the things I find most useful about CC is the many many stories of different people here, which sort of give you a global perspective on what applications are like. So I thought I would share my (currently uncompleted) story of my senior year here, just to give back a little. So I’m NOT looking for advice per se, but if you do have some free life-changing advice you’d like to gift to an internet stranger, please don’t think twice about offering those gems.

I know I said this would be a college admissions story, but there I lied - It’s really about my life, a little about how I’m going to apply, maybe a diary of sorts. Just to deviate from the norm. I’m doing this because a) I need an incentive to keep an ongoing diary and need to keep myself accountable to my goals, b) I think it might be an interesting resource to draw on later, and c) because why not, it sounds fun. Hopefully someone will find this useful someday.

A bit about me:

I’m a rising senior at HS, (aka, in the middle of exam season, currently procrastinating :confused: ), with strong interests in things like leadership, debate, politics and community, etc. When my time comes I will probably be applying to Stanford (eep!), maybe Brown or uPenn, Georgetown, maybe Wellesley, schools like UCLA, etc. We’ll see.

Details, as posted on another thread, are C/P-ed below:

Stats:

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<li>SAT - super score 2210 (CR - 800, M - 710, W - 700).</li>
<li>SAT 2s - yet to take (Probably will take literature, biology, maybe something else.)</li>
<li>IB predicted - It shouldn’t drop below a 40, if you add the 3 points. I’m trying to boost that to 42 right now… On the other hand, 4 HLs - English, Economics, Philosophy and Chinese B. SLs - Maths and Environmental Systems.</li>
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Summary of extra curriculars:

  • President, captain and coach for school debating team (silver finalist in major local tournament, coached kids to win other things) - 3 years ongoing.

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<li>Student council president (Been involved with the student council officially for 3 years, I have tons of fun on council and I think this year has been one of the best years yet in the school’s history)</li>
<li>Chair of inter-school debating organization that runs biannual charity debating tournaments - lots of involvement with different local and international NGOs, worked with Amnesty International and one or two other very prominent local charities. - 1 year as chair, 1 year as organizer, 1 year as participant :D</li>
<li>Organizer (albeit very passionate one) of a school based inclusivity group that strives for human rights / inclusiveness between LGBT, gender, racial, socio-economic etc. divides. Organized big groups for pride parades (lots of news coverage on that), run lessons for grade 9 students in school on the reality of discrimination, run an inter-school student conference inviting 4 different NGOs to come discuss with students on problems in home city, and how we can solve those problems. Been working closely with this local NGO I’m fond of who have the most warm-hearted organizers I’ve ever met. - 1 crazy year!</li>
<li>President of philosophy club that hosts discussions with students on philosophical issues every week - 2 years as president now, but it’s floundered a little this year.</li>
<li>Member of national delegation to one of the most prestigious international public speaking and debating tournaments in the world for two years running (involved 4+ months of training one day a week for both events), probably will be helping to host the tournament next year. - 2 years.</li>
<li>Won 4-5 notable debating best speaker / winning team awards at local tournaments, ranked 4th in the world for debating at aforementioned prestigious international debating / public speaking tournament (around 200 people attended, I think?)</li>
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I’ll write more after exams. See you all!

eep, just finished my philosophy paper, one more mock exam to go! A little more about me - I’m a junior in Hong Kong, I’ll be applying as an international student to US, don’t need aid so hopefully that’ll make things a little easier.

Right now, I’m wrapping up a lot of my ECs. as is probably noticeable from above, I’m really in love with a lot of what I do, but it’s time for me to pass some things down and hopefully create some lineage for projects I’m interested in. This summer, I’m passing on the conventional summer camps - I was going to apply for a teaching position at a really marvelous non-profit summer camp program in HK, but in the end family decided to go on vacation, thus I have a lot of free time to fill.

Summer plans: Lots of reading, lots of exercise, taking up windsurfing and some meditative activities, focusing on my ethos and trying to establish a better sense for who I am in the world. Also, plans to help out with two or three NGOs - I’m pretty excited to have the opportunity to talk to a few people from different organizations, I would like to get to know their causes a little more, perhaps find out for sure whether that life could be suited for me. Also, putting in obligatory time to debating tournaments, meeting friends, drafting my IB Extended Essay, working on grades and perhaps SAT2s, trying to enrich my knowledge of things in the world. Perhaps if I’m feeling ambitious I’ll tackle a compsci course I never got around to.

Hope everyone’s summers go well!

This is a very good idea!
I “starred” it so that I could read every update as soon as it’s posted. :slight_smile:

@MYOS1634 That’s great, thanks! Haven’t kept a diary in ages, I feel like Anne Frank again except without the gore :smiley: - hope this is useful in some way!

In other news, my last IB exam is in two hours - wish me luck. After that, SAT2s… SAT2 Literature exam coming up on the 7th of June, and I haven’t even started to revise… blimey, I’m banking on my current knowledge of analysis, but I’ll have to brush up on a lot of terms and do a lot of crammed revision. Will update as to how that goes AFTER the exam.

So… I’m a little wrung out and upset because my end of year grades aren’t quite as ridiculously amazing as I thought they would be. 7 for Eng Lit, 6 for everything else, with a 5/6 for Chinese B higher. + 3 points = 40 points… They’re not ridiculously bad either, but I have a LOT of work cut out for myself. I have around 3 months now to claw myself back up into a better position, AND to maintain ECA excellence, AND to finish all my EE / TOK things. Rather stressed.

SAT Literature in two days time - I’m getting around 690 - 720 on Barrons, which is frustrating because I deeply suspect some of the answers on Barrons are wrong. Calculating for errors I should score maybe 750+, give or take a few. I’ll have to work harder on my vocabulary tonight and tomorrow as well to just finish the home stretch. Wish me luck!

40 is very good, it doesn’t close ANY university. :slight_smile:

Hi @MYOS1634! Haha it’s sort of sweet to know that someone’s reading through this thread :slight_smile: And thanks for the encouragement! I guess I’ve always been brought up with the assumption that any score below 45 is a bad score, but of course it’s not true - I’m extra determined to succeed on the rest of my studies now though, just to prove to myself that I can!

FINISHED SAT Literature, now onto the rest of my year! Although, in hindsight, Barron’s book was incredibly unhelpful in helping me prepare, in that it built me a lot of assumptions I shouldn’t have made… The end of the test was a bit rushed but otherwise it should be fine. Next up: Summer (with my reading list crammed full of Chomsky, Arendt, Vonnegut and some other amazing writers) and academic work, achieving my fitness goals, and tentatively crafting my shortlist of colleges. My school annoyingly restricts us to SIX applications only, meaning that my 20-ish long list of schools has to reduce by half or more by the end of the school term. Good luck to everyone else!

On Tumblr, there is a community called “appblrs” who blog about college admissions together (mostly high school students or recent high school graduates).

@midnightdreary Sounds interesting :slight_smile: Although, I suspect if I started to spend more time on tumblr I might never get anything else productive done! :stuck_out_tongue: I’ll take a look though and thanks!

Can you request to apply to more? Because essentially it means you can only apply to 2 crapshoots/reaches, 2 matches, and 2 safeties (the recommendation is: 2 safeties, 3-5 matches, and how many reaches as you wish or can afford…) That’s insane considering how competitive you seem and thus how many super selective schools you could apply to. Or do they limit you to 6 Top 25 schools and then let you apply to as many public or Top 50 and Top100 schools as you wish?
Could you talk to the guidance counselor and see whether s/he could count the 6 from the match and safety list, and add the reaches - perhaps it’s a matter of paying for the stamps and stuff? I don’t know, 6 doesn’t even cover the basics for competitive students).

@MYOS1634 Haha you’re going to make me blush. But no my school is incredibly annoying when it comes to these sorts of matters - we have tons of strong candidates… guess why our ivy headcount each year is so poor? They limit us to 6 schools only, including UCAS schools as separate applications, etc. It’s ridiculous. I was thinking of applying to NYU Abu Dhabi, and my school counts the NYU and NYUAD applications as separate applications even though there’s one checkbox of a difference between those two apps. Strictly speaking I can apply for 8 schools for “family reasons”. I think I’m going to chance it at one safety, maybe 3-4 matches, 2-3 reaches… I’m lucky to be an Australian citizen, which means that Australian universities will be pretty cheap from me and my IB score for University of Sydney shouldn’t drop below the 30-something mark they want.

Matches and reaches are much more difficult to decide, leading to my struggle with my school list right now. I think a friend of mine from another school applied to the UC schools on the side (incidentally he’s now going to Oxford, the lucky sod) and I shall ask how we weaseled his way into that one. Otherwise I guess it comes down to the accuracy of my selections and the luck of the game!

Can you talk to someone about applications that don’t require extra work for the counselor being counted as one (ie., UCs, NYU/NYUAD…) It may also be because they don’t understand the holistic (ie., highly unpredictable) nature of US admissions. The “6 school” limit makes sense for Australia, or the UK, or even Canada.
Do ask the student how he managed to apply to more schools.
I assume you don’t need financial aid?
I would advise you to read a couple novels or books over the summer that pertain to your goal, such as the Fiske Guide, but also The Gatekeepers, or Make Lemonade.

@MYOS1634 What I don’t understand either is that my counsellor doesn’t seem to be too floored by the workload, but rather is just stubborn to change his views. My school has more UK / Australian applicants, but I think his strategy even for US schools is to “focus” us and make sure our applications are “as good as they can be”… Agreed, I don’t think he really knows what he’s talking about.

Thank you for the book suggestions! They look very interesting, I shall add them to my reading list :slight_smile: Actually I’m planning to immerse myself a lot more into my humanities subjects this summer - so in Philosophy looking at Hannah Arendt, Singer, fideism and natural moral law, Economics - B corporations and monetary policies, etc. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to go over some light anthropology and computer science but my plans are always over ambitious so I probably won’t be able to hit every target I’ve got planned. But I can dream!

Thank you for your help :slight_smile:

Alright (since I haven’t updated this in a long time), I’m admitting it, IB is getting STRESSFUL and after looking through my half completed EE once more, I need a break. If you guys are aiming for the international baccalaureate diploma, here are some tips on the EE:

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<li>START EARLY. I definitely didn’t do this soon enough, and now I’m paying for my lack of planning. If you’re going on vacation over the summer, start at least a little BEFORE you go on vacation, so that when you come back you won’t be overwhelmed by the amount of work you have to do and will at least have a starting point from which you can progress onwards.</li>
<li>Spend time thinking about your question and formulating it carefully while doing preliminary research (but also remember it’s alright to change your mind). My EE supervisor told me to just go ahead with research without formulating the exact wording of my question: while this isn’t a life-ending mistake to made (and I do finally have a well formulated question now), it will still make your writing process feel a little more directionless than if you had a clear question to focus on.</li>
<li>Read other essays in your field of interest: There are many exemplar essays online - find them and use them to help give structure to your own essay. Notice how they approach their fields of research, and also note places where their writing is unclear or unstructured (and avoid those pitfalls).</li>
<li>If you’re feeling overwhelmed, it’s best to just start, get something down on paper / your word document (no matter how dreadful it seems or how unclear your prose is) and then focus on editing later.</li>
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I hope you all had a great summer! In other news, somehow I picked up two casual volunteering opportunities over the summer: One loosely arranged online “internship” to help a friend with her project on tackling LGBT diversity within different major corporations (which involved mostly Excel skills and lots of googling), one blogpost writing arrangement for a charity called Giving What We Can, that focuses on the idea of effective altruism - interestingly the same issue my extended essay is concerned with!

I think in retrospect I could have made a much better use of my summer if I had planned ahead better: I was feeling a little drained after vacationing for a while, and so wasted a week or so of perfectly usable time on mundane things like watching movies and surfing YouTube. If I could go back to change things, I would definitely have spent more time BEFORE the term ended (especially before my end of year exams started) planning a concrete summer full of valuable activities. The only plan I bothered to make was unfortunately derailed after my family made last-minute vacation plans, and I was stuck with not much to do.

Right now it means I’m a little behind on everything, but hopefully I’ll be able to wrap up my ECs for the next term quickly, organize and finalize my university list, get back on track for essays and apps, focus more on academics and generally get ahead with my admissions life for a last grueling senior year (sounds fun… right? <em>starts crying on the inside</em>). School starts in a week, so it’s time to rev up again!

Good luck everyone on the same journey I’m on (especially if you’re gearing up to tackle your last year) and I wish you all the best of successes!

@13lia1 Lol so I guess you forgot about this? I’m just curious–what school are you attending next year?

@itsmyusername Sorry! Have a terrible habit of starting projects and not finishing them! Whoops! Attending Wellesley College right now and I really love it here. It’s fun to look back and see what I’ve learned :slight_smile:

I don’t know how much more I can add that would be helpful to others, given that this is such a late late reply to this thread, but I’m so very happy with where I ended up. I’m staring at our beautiful Lake Waban on a lovely afternoon right now and I feel very fortunate to have ended up where I am. Good luck to anyone who stumbles across this in the future!

Thank you for coming back. How did you choose Wellesley? Was it like you expected it to be - and if not, what surprised you, either positively or negatively?

Hi:D I’m also from Hong Kong but I’m from the DSE stream. I’m just wondering if it’s hard to adapt to the new environment as an international student :3