My counselor is being weird about deferral reversal

<p>Okay, I've read many times from numerous sources that it is simply common practice for guidance counselors to advocate for deferred students that they support strongly by calling or writing a letter to the school (especially calling). That way the student gets his name up and people at the school still think you're interested. I read in a book yesterday at Barnes and Noble that, "conscientious guidance counselors should do this automatically, but you might want to give them a helpful reminder." This kind of angered me, because the other day I had an appointment with my GC and I asked her if she might call Princeton and get my name back in the running, tell them about my leanring AP spanish literature, ask if I can send another recommendation/essay, tell them that they made a mistake, or something like that. She looked at me like I was crazy, and said that schools typically like materials from deferred kids to come strictly from a student. ?????. And this isn't a question of her not supporting me, she expected me to get in early. (I guess this explains why very few kids from my high school get in after being deferred...whereas it's more common at private schools that have counselors that are a little more well-informed)</p>

<p>You might want to double check this, but I seem to remember a couple of years ago that Princeton will not take phone calls from anyone on behalf of a student. The reasoning was that it put some students (maybe those from big public h.s.) at a disadvantage relative to other students (like those in private schools that have relationships with college adcoms). </p>

<p>I have heard of counsellors calling, but believe that Princeton will not accept calls. Maybe someone else has newer info.?</p>

<p>I would not take it personally or think that your GC is not on your side because I beleive you also have to look at the magnitude of the number of applicants and deferrals to the ED round. If everyone who got deferred had a GC call on their behalf, the process would probably never move forward to the RD round because to the number of phone calls the admins would have to deal with. If you have anything new that you want the adcoms to consider by all means send it.</p>

<p>In the big scheme of things I can understand why Princeton does not accept calls as your situation is probably no different than that of any other applicant who got deferred. As far as the Princeton's adcoms are concerned every GC representing a student believes that the student is a great fit for Princeton, is a stellar student, has something unique to offer and should be admitted.</p>

<p>Proceed with confidence and without the GC. imho</p>

<p>At the Princeton info session, when people were asking about what could be submitted with the application the admission rep. said something along the lines of: You decide how best to present yourself. That was taken as: Send in what you want, if it will help us to know and evaluate you.
I think that would still apply for supplementary materials.</p>

<p>Don't wait too long, and don't be afraid to let your personality come through in addition to your accomplishments.</p>

<p>Amen to Cricket's advice. It's up to you to go after this! Frankly, the average counselor who doesn't know the adcoms will not advance your cause. So go for it, write a great letter, send a new reference, be creative, Best of luck!</p>

<p>It's my understanding that in the case of a deferral, they want the student to submit any new information. Your guidance counselor has to submit a mid year report and if you look at the Princeton from they ask for more that just grades from the GC. They ask for an updated reference, so that would be an opportunity for your guidance counselor to reaffirm her support of your application. As for the GC calling admissions and pleading your case, I think that's expected more after being placed on a waiting list. Pestering the admissions office is apparently looked upon favorably once you're on the waiting list.</p>

<p>As far as Princeton not taking phone calls is concerned, I don't know if that is true. However, GC's at small private schools have told me that the Princeton admissions office in general does not talk to GC's the way other admission offices do. However, this may have changed with the new Dean.</p>