<p>Has anyone mentioned Santa Clara University? They claim to help more than 70% of undergrad.</p>
<p>We took a trip down to S. Calif last summer to visit USC, UCLA, UCSB, & UCI. At the end, DD claimed Santa Clara Univ. is the most beautiful campus in all she visited.</p>
<p>When I mentioned Tulane and Jazz I was thinking about it more as a continuation of an EC at a very good school that provides good merit awards.</p>
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<p>USC no longer offers German major/minor but there are still German classes to take. What other academic departments were eliminated? Please be specific.</p>
<p>Since money matters and she wants to be in a career where school doesn’t matter, I’d take a hard look at the CSU system and have her apply to more.</p>
<p>Has anyone mentioned Santa Clara University? They claim to help more than 70% of undergrad.</p>
<p>Santa Clara is awful with aid for people who aren’t poor. Just ask the many who’ve been accepted there. Yes, they give small amounts to many so that they say that they give money to 70%. It’s the amount of money given that is important, not the fact that they give little bits to many. When the COA is $50k, getting a tiny handout still leaves you with a big bill. :(</p>
<p>Yes, Santa Clara is gorgeous. My nephew will likely be going there next year…paying full freight.</p>
<p>Have you considered Northern Arizona University?</p>
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<p>Can you refer me to a link about this? Because if you are referring to “Eligibility in the Local Context” it only means that the top 4% of graduating seniors at any high school are eligible to attend one of the UCs. It could be UCR. I am pretty sure it doesn’t guarantee admission to Cal or UCLA. It’s just like being UC eligible for being in the top 12.5% statewide, or by exam. But if you can show me differently I would not be surprised to be wrong. But I’d like to see it somewhere official.</p>
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<p>bovertine, you are right…and you could be in the top 4% overall in Calif, but not at your particular school, so you’re not guaranteed anything.</p>
<p>And, you’re right, no one is guaranteed for UCLA or UCB.</p>
<p>IIRC, stats from a few years ago, UCSD accept 97% ELC?</p>
<p>Eastern Washington University has the accreditation in Physical therapy, kinisielogy.
University of Wisconsin at Madison…difficlt to get into but has both the undergrad and grad area.</p>
<p>Many of the OOS publics are not all that much different from UC’s and I wouldn’t want to pay OOS tuitiion even with the UC rate hike (my d is at UCB right now). Not sure she’d like them any better. However, ASU honors program is excellent, like a LAC within a huge university, and merit aid abounds. Also, U of Oregon has merit aid your d would qualify for making it less than a UC.</p>
<p>Forgot to add a note re: USC. They give 1/2 tuition minimum for NM kids, but little for the rest. My d was accepted with stronger stats than your d but no merit aid; thus it was a yes/no ie. yes, you were accepted but no, you may not go!</p>
<p>Yes, it’s the top 4%. She’s in the top 6%. She did get that one B. And, some kids starting taking AP classes sophomore year. Those all count for more UC points. But, hey, we’re very proud of her achieving top 6%. And, now that she doesn’t want to apply to any UCs, it really isn’t an issue now.</p>
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<p>Can you refer me to a link about this? Because if you are referring to “Eligibility in the Local Context” it only means that the top 4% of graduating seniors at any high school are eligible to attend one of the UCs. It could be UCR. I am pretty sure it doesn’t guarantee admission to Cal or UCLA. It’s just like being UC eligible for being in the top 12.5% statewide, or by exam. But if you can show me differently I would not be surprised to be wrong. But I’d like to see it somewhere official. I have the list of UCs for this year. They’re UC Davis, UC Irvine, UC Riverside, UC Santa Barbara, and UC Merced. it changes from year to year.</p>
<p>Missed ELC by 2%. She’s top 6%. I read what you said about not skipping the UC deadline to my husband. He totally agrees with you. But, do we FORCE her to apply to a UC? I’m actually going to give it a good try. She’s absolutely adamant about not wanting to apply to Davis. That’s actually the one UC I thought would be a better fit for her, especially since it offers a major she might like.</p>
<p>I am soooo weary of this.</p>
<p>With only one B, may I assume that your D is ELC? If so, Davis, SB and the other, lower UCs are essentially guaranteed, even a crappy essay, even if worst essays ever. Thus, she’d be remiss to skip the UC deadline, IMO. Better to turn them down on May 1 than today.</p>
<p>You may want to look at the Univ of Utah which has a number of programs in the areas that interest her, and has very good choral opportunities.</p>
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<p>She keeps reading these reviews at various sites and naturally they won’t all be positive. That’s normal with all schools. In fact, I thought it got a pretty good rating on Students Reviews. <a href="http://www..com/AL/UAT.html%5B/url%5D">http://www..com/AL/UAT.html</a> But, at this point, it doesn’t look like she’s all that interested in applying. Not sure if it was some of the posts about the dominant Greek life and negative descriptions of students or what. Aaaaack! I’m sure she would do fine there. But I won’t push it. We’ll see! She has a little over a week to get it done if she intends to.</p>
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<p>Have her apply to Alabama - today! It takes all of 5 minutes. With her stats she’ll get lots of merit and be invited into the honors program for even more. But the scholarship deadline is Dec 1.</p>
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Since she’s fishing for a college now, it’s a good idea to cast her net widely and then she can decide later after she sees what she ‘catches’. It’s getting late to apply to some of these colleges - the deadlines are approaching (next week for the UCs). She still apparently doesn’t really know where she wants to go. A good approach might be - </p>
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<li><p>Apply to the UCs. Check the boxes of each UC she might remotely decide to attend between now and when she needs to commit. Relative to the cost of college the extra $70 or so per checkbox is insignificant. It doesn’t take that long to fill out the app. it’s worth the hour or whatever of her time to fill it out.</p></li>
<li><p>Apply to any CSUs she’s might remotely decide to attend.</p></li>
<li><p>Apply to the OOS publics and any privates she might be interested in (within reason on number) including some of those you’re receiving advice on here if they look appealing to her. </p></li>
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<p>Discuss with her that these applications are not a commitment. It’s just an application to see what results. Once all the results are in then she (and you and H) can get more serious about narrowing down what are now her choices. She needs to realize that her outlook on any of these colleges plus or minus can change between now and commit time. It would be short-sighted of her to limit her options too severely at this point.</p>
<p>Thanks for your PM, Mom2Collegekids. I forwarded it to my husband and daughter. He’s not real keen on Alabama for some reason, although he knows it’s a great football school. I spent a lot of time on their website last night and noticed how beautiful the campus is. And, like you said, you can’t beat the scholarships! See, I’m trying to tell her that having good grades and decent test scores is like money in our pocket, so it would be to everyone’s advantage if she looked into schools who offer this. Trouble is, I don’t feel I can make her go to a certain school just because it offers a lot of merit aid. </p>
<p>As for what she wants to do outside of the classroom? All of what you listed! This is one of the things that drew her to apply to Indiana U-Bloomington. I suppose most large, public schools offer all of this. And, so do many private schools.</p>
<p>I honestly hope she gets accepted to Cal Poly SLO. That not only is a manageable tuition for us, but it’s 2+ hour easy drive from home. Great location. Good program and lots of opportunities for hands-on classes. </p>
<p>But, in the meantime, we’ve got all the wonderful information you sent about U of Alabama. She can mull it over for the next several days and decide if it might be worth applying to. Money-wise it would! :)</p>
<p>I noticed you mentioned USC. She’s in the process of filling out her online app. now. When I read here where she won’t qualify for a merit scholarship, I told her maybe she shouldn’t even apply. I know that sounds defeatist, but I’m worried that if she were to be accepted we’ll have to tell her no.</p>
<p>By the way, what is NMF? Need Met Financial aid? Yeah…even though we’re not anywhere near wealthy (husband is a h.s. teacher and times 10K races/track meets on some weekends). We probably make about $80-85,000. One child living at home. Now for somewhere like Stanford we’d get fulll tuition paid. Helps to have a huge endowment. :)</p>
<p>Thanks once again and I’ll keep you posted if she decides to apply!</p>
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<p>Osdad is right about applying to Bama - my kids go there and we’re Calif natives. Super EZ app. Beautiful school - strong academics. Your child will get lots of merit if she applies by Dec 1 (at least $60k in merit) PM me if you have any questions.</p>
<p>I think that your D will like SLO…my niece is there and loves it. </p>
<p>what about USD? </p>
<p>What does she want in a school outside of the classroom? Clubs, rah rah sports, greeks, nice rec centers, nice dorms, cool off-campus hangouts?? I know that may seem silly, but kids do consider these things.</p>
<p>I agree that she won’t get merit from USC with her stats (sorry). USC gives merit to some ACTs around 33+ and to NMFs. (I have nieces and nephews who’ve tried. the only one to get any merit from USC was a NMF.)</p>
<p>Another point - not all students ‘fall in love’ with a particular college after researching them and after visiting them. Some may end up ambivalent about all of them. But they need to attend somewhere so they need to choose from their options anyway. They often tend to like whatever their choice is later after they start there. Maybe she’s waiting for the dream college but isn’t actually dreaming about them! Maybe she’s just trying to put the whole thought of them out of her mind at the moment but she’s running out of time for the apps and just needs to do it anyway.</p>
<p>Wow, 39 posts and you haven’t gotten the CC lecture on telling your child exactly what you will be willing to pay for college. That way you don’t have to say no in April and she can make choices in terms of applying knowing what’s affordable.</p>
<p>I think you need to insist on a financial safety, but considering the salary you give, it’s probably a CSU as opposed to a UC. I believe UCs would expect you to be full pay at $25K or so, and depending on savings, that might be more than you want to spend.</p>
<p>One strategy would be to try to raise the ACT score to have a better shot at more schools with generous aid. If you don’t have unusual assets, on $80K you’d qualify for quite a bit at many private colleges making them probably cheaper than a UC.</p>