No Ivies don’t. But Vandy isn’t an Ivy.
@Lizardly
So he is only partly disliked because of his URM status? [-(
If the other parts of your apps were more or less the same:
If she is majoring in a STEM field, she has the ovarian advantage over males. If you’re female as well (I don’t know your gender, OP), her race probably played a greater role. Tough luck, OP.
If the other parts of your apps were not the same:
She probably has better essays, recs, ECs, etc. than you do.
Honestly, the second option is more probable. Her race/gender did probably factor into the decision, though. We just have to learn to live with affirmative action.
Just read the “Tyrone vs. Blaine” debate. I couldn’t stop laughing.
10/10
EDIT: To the person who posted the thing about loving diversity in student bodies and that having a mostly Asian student body somehow hurts “diversity”–I didn’t know that all Asians think in the same way. To quote an excellent article on this topic by David Sacks and Peter Thiel:
“…if ‘diversity’ were really the goal, then preferences would be given on the basis of unusual characteristics, not on the basis of race. The underlying assumption – that only minorities can add certain ideas or perspectives – is offensive not merely because it is untrue but also because it implies that all minorities think a certain way.”
I have heard from some college advisers with good info. that race isn’t supposed to be a factor but it unfortunately is behind the doors. I am not racist, as both of my best friends growing up were a different race than me, and that feeling hasn’t changed. I do believe that the best applicant should be chosen no matter what race is though. If all the applicants are black that are the best candidates then they should be admitted, but not because of their race. I hope these unfortunate backdoor practices can become a thing of the past in the future.
101: True, actually. There is resentment of the status and dislike of the kid.
@Lizardly So we are supposed to feel bad for some racist kids? No, sorry. Not happening. It’s one thing to dislike affirmative action, but to straight up not like someone because of their race? They shouldn’t be admitted into Yale anyway. They should all get rejected.
An underlying tone of discussions such as this reminds me of the movie “Coming To America” with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd a few years ago; enjoyed it very much. I am probably over-simplifying it (I hope I am not too inaccurate), but the brothers had a bet whether they could put person from a dis-advantaged environment and make him successful. I assume universities would contend that it may take generations to accomplish. But it seems the universities are willing to risk a degradation of their prestige, i.e., by accepting lower achieving (GPA, ACT) individuals at the risk of turning out lower performing graduates. It would be interesting to see how it turns out after a hundred years. Eddie Murphy did really well.
Coming to America was a film with Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall, in which they both played multiple characters including the classic (to my generation) “Sexual Chocolate” and barbershop crew.
You’re thinking of Trading Places. And yes, Eddie did great.
They’ve been doing it for decades, and their prestige has done nothing but go up.
Not saying that. #106 Go reread. The point of the story was that kids didn’t know what was really going on with this boy. The Yalie to be was from a far more complex background than his peers suspected. They see an arrogant kid coasting on his URM status. A little investigation shows he is from a low SES immigrant family and has successfully hidden that from his classmates. No doubt he had interesting essays, more than his peers knew. Few ECs? Maybe because he has to translate for his parents and support them in daily life.
You are correct. I loved both movies.
@OHMomof2 - ““Full ride” to HYP has zero to do with race and everything to do with income. HYP only gives need-based financial aid.”
My story occurred nearly 30 years ago before the current structure of financial aid was in place.
Hmm. I didn’t know they did it then either. That was “my time”.