<p>My information is in Princeton Forum: African American's chance</p>
<p>I am applying to Princeton ED and other Ivys.</p>
<p>I don't either GG</p>
<p>i dont either</p>
<p>These are low scores for a URM at an ivy.</p>
<p>Even for a URM, these scores and GPA are barely competitive for any Ivy League or tier 1 school. Your dad is not the one applying to these schools, so his prominence is not going to assist you. There are many children of famous people who do not get accepted to these schools with far more competitive scores and GPA. I strongly doubt your parents' income as listed. Even the the primary care practictioners who work in the inner city have median incomes above $100 K. In any case, this income would not qualify you as a "low income" URM.</p>
<p>I would strongly recommend you look carefully at your desires and then match your scores/GPA to those listed for the a list of schools. Being African American will gain you ~100 to 200 pts on the SAT, perhaps more to the lower end since you are the child of an educated parent and would be expected, therefore, to excel and take advantage of all opportunities available to you. So look for schools that would put you in the 50%ile for an SAT of 1300-1360 or so (on the old scale). There are AA who get into Princeton with these SAT's but this is less likely for a child of educated parents who sports a GPA <90. This combination is what puts you at the most disadvantage. If you bring up your SAT, this will undoubtedly help you, but it will beg the question "Why did this inherently smart student not work hard enough to have a better GPA?" I.e, the curse of the smart, lazy student when applying to these schools. I also don't see any evidence that you tried to exceed the academic limitations of your HS in your stats. No community college, etc.</p>
<p>I agree with the previous poster. Find a reason that you are unique to and would benefit the community of these schools. Write killer essays. Retake your SAT after significant self prep. Good luck.</p>
<p>"~African American
~Took rigorous courseloads, but my school doesn't offer many AP courses
~One of 2-3 blacks to take honors/AP courses
~Unweighted: 85.94 (Got Bs in honors/AP courses and As in electives)
~Weighted: 93.5
~SAT I: Old SAT of 1200 (580 CR, 620 M)
~New Sat of 1870 (600 CR, 610 W, 660 M)
~SAT II: 610 History, 600 Biology and 710 Math IIC
~Involved in community service (150+ hours), shadowing a doctor in the hospital, research in university department, baseball (JV) for 2 years, and three academic clubs (chemistry, physics and math)
~Planning to major in biology
~If it helps: suburban (good school but limited number of AP courses and very few minority students taking rigorous courses), my grandparents got poor education (immigrants) but my parents got high education as well as highly respected career in medicine, permanent resident (not an American citizen), my father is one of very well-known doctors internationally-he has been on many TV interviews, my parents make $80,000-100,000 a year"</p>
<p>Typically 1200 is about the bottom (old) SAT range for Ivies and similar schools, and very few students are accepted with scores like that. Those students tend to be people with major hooks such as being nationally competitive athletes, being offspring of celebrities (i.e. heads of state, famous movie stars) or multimillionaire donors or having overcome major challenges such as homelessness.</p>
<p>Simply being a URM is not going to give you a break. I have known African Americans -- including male legacies -- who have been rejected from Ivies with "A" averages and scores in the 1300s-1500s.</p>
<p>Certainly apply wherever you want, but realize that places like HPYS are distant reaches for you.</p>
<p>Your chances would be far better, though still not assured, at places like University of North Carolina, Washington University, Emory, Brandeis and Wesleyan. This particularly will be true if you raise your scores and either have stronger ECs than you are describing or present your ECs in a way that better illustrates their strengths.</p>
<p>From what you've posted, your research might be your best EC. It might be something to highlight in your essay. Club memberships are not impressive. If you're a top office -- and have made an impact on the club -- that also could be something to highlight.</p>
<p>an african i know with similar stats is going to northwestern, if that gives you an idea of where you can be shooting.</p>
<p>You're constantly using your race to rationalize your stats</p>
<p>Theres still about 2000 colleges that will want you, beisdes ivies.</p>
<p>he has a good shot. A B average and 600+ test scores, which he has, are not low. Of course his URM status can only help him, ED to Princeton is a plus (ups his chances at least 5-10%), and he has good EC's. He has just as good a shot as anybody else.</p>
<p>A "B" average is low for Ivy applicants. There's nothing remarkable about his ECs unless his research has resulted in his being published or his winning a major award.</p>
<p>Remarkable ECs for places like Ivies include things like being a nationally ranked athlete, giving solo performances at Carnegie Hall, being the national president of an organization, doing major fundraising -- such as raising $10,000 from a project that the student organized....</p>
<p>There are plenty of people who are class presidents, have done hundereds of hours of community service, have won awards at the state level for organizations -- who are rejected because the Ivies get thousands of applicants similar to them. Ones who are accepted with these kind of ECs tend to have something special about them such as being very poor, living in an underrepresented state, etc. Simply being a URM isn't enough. </p>
<p>There are plenty of much higher qualified URMS. To find them, all one has to do is use the search function here at College Confidential to find out who was accepted for the incoming classes.</p>
<p>Since African immigrants' kids are among the highest scoring and highest achieving black students, his ECs and stats seem especially weak. For instance, from what I've seen, a lot of the black students who score in the 1450s and higher on the old SAT had parents who were African immigrants.</p>
<p>In case you haven't realized, this kid is desperately seeking empathy.</p>
<p>If you bring the math score up to a 700 it could make a difference, (it is worth a try at the Ivys but you will definitely have some good choices either way.</p>