<p>lol sum1 got Gomestar mad and passionate...haha</p>
<p>How's the convincing of the parents going?</p>
<p>I would say the fact that HR constitutes the single highest fraction of fields that ILR grads go into suggests that ILR feeds into HR positions. I am sure that Cornell Econ or AEM would not have 20 percent of its grads going into HR. There is nothing wrong with HR; but to suggest that ILR does equally well with banking and consulting as econ is simply incorrect.</p>
<p>"lol sum1 got Gomestar mad and passionate...haha"
Ignorance is on thing, stupidity is different, while arrogance is also a bad trait. Combine all 3 and I'll likely use angry vocab, case in point. </p>
<p>"I would say the fact that HR constitutes the single highest fraction of fields that ILR grads go into suggests that ILR feeds into HR positions."
Here we go again with this kid. When did somebody ever deny this? I certainly didn't, and I can't recall where anybody else did. ILR DOES feed into HR positions. </p>
<p>"I am sure that Cornell Econ or AEM would not have 20 percent of its grads going into HR"
Considering neither major has a HR dept., I'd guess so as well. </p>
<p>"but to suggest that ILR does equally well with banking and consulting as econ is simply incorrect."
Not really. It would be incorrect if we had stats that said something like: 22/100 ILR grads who wants to go into bankings goes into banking while 51/100 econ grads who want to go into banking go into banking. But, we dont have this data. Your making an assumption that because econ or AEM likely place a higher % of their graduating students into banking/consulting, that they are a better choice for somebody interested in the career. You are ignoring all of the other fields that ILR grads go into, and trust me, there's plenty. In fact, it's suprising how many ILR grads go into banking/consulting considering the variety of other careers that are readily available to them. Truth is, we don't know exactly which major is 'the best' because we dont have the exact data ... it's likely that significantly more econ majors have the ambition of going into banking/consulting, but what's important here is the number who want to vs. the number who actually make it. Not your little assumptions.</p>
<p>CayugaRed2005 - You make some very excellent points. I was looking at the stats of fields NYU CAS grads get into after they graduate, and a fair amount do get jobs with very prestigious consulting firms. I guess NYU, while not as good as Cornell, is still a very good school and on its way up. However, like you pointed out, I'll be spending the rest of my life in the cities. A few years in beautiful Ithaca would be great!</p>
<p>I am very interested in the ILR program and the fact that it is so flexible - the program itself is the #1 reason I want to transfer.</p>
<p>Haha, NYU sports is really something to laugh at. I'm sure any sports team at NYU would be beaten by the average middle-school team. If I come to Cornell, I'll definitely be attending some hockey games.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for the great pointers. I'm happy to say that, using the information you guys provided, I was able to convince my parents that ILR is really a great program and I'll be applying for Fall'08 admission. Now...time to get to work to work on those essays!</p>
<p>woooow congrats, that's great! I wish you the best of luck and hopefully I'll be seeing you around in ILR!</p>
<p>My observation: A hugely disproportionate number of the ILR' ies I knew at Cornell are today partners in major law firms. On this particular front they are demonstrably quite successful. Impressively successful.</p>
<p>If one of my kids was clearly focused on this path, and wanted a social sciences immersion program with an emphasis on labor issues- foregoing the science & language part of a liberal arts education in the process-followed by a law career, I would have no qualms about sending them off to ILR. From what I've seen their record is quite impressive.</p>
<p>Over the years I've encountered a couple who were in HR. And one from my freshman dorm went to B-School; don't know what happened since. Another is a poli sci professor.</p>
<p>But it's clearly no joke, if what you want is what it offers. Far from it.</p>
<p>I'm also sure that with an ILR background from Cornell, it'd be rather easy to become a labor laywer, which is a pretty good job nowadays...</p>
<p>columbiahopeful! is just a ****ed off little kid that has a personal agenda against the contract colleges. His other screen names have made this perfectly clear.</p>
<p>tell your parents that ILR has the 2nd highest starting salary at Cornell, right under Engineering</p>
<p>i found this interesting:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=376736%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=376736</a></p>
<p>I want to go to business school and probably go into I-Banking or Consulting, would CAS or ILR be a better fit?</p>
<p>by business school do you mean get your MBA or you want an undergraduate business program? </p>
<p>CALS's AEM program is more of the traditional business program at cornell, ILR is the employee side of business (which is a growing field) </p>
<p>CAS econ would be ok if you plan on getting your MBA...</p>
<p>either or, companies recruit by university not by major or school within cornell. Just take challenging classes, get a great gpa, and prepare well for interviews. </p>
<p>with the one exception that goldman sachs held recruitment sessions for ILR students only last year.</p>
<p>gomestar whats ur major? and what classes have you taken if u dont mind me asking...also what do u plan on working in?</p>
<p>-ILR </p>
<ul>
<li><p>i've taken classes all over campus though none in one concentrated subject matter except for maybe spanish. this includes all of the required ilr classes plus spanish several times, an extra econ or two, some english, and various ILR electives from org. behavior to HR to law and ethics. </p></li>
<li><p>might consider consulting when i graduate or something like org. development. My big internship is in organization and talent development for a big financial regulation company in Washington, DC</p></li>
</ul>
<p>could anybody please provide stats on the admissions to ILR (SAT 25-75, admit rate, ect)?
When you say the "labor side of business is a growing field" could you give some examples?</p>
<p>they admitted 29% ED and 26% RD (i think, it's in another thread) I'm not positive about the SAT range but it's something like 1300-1430 and ACT is like 26-31. </p>
<p>"When you say the "labor side of business is a growing field" could you give some examples?"
Human Resources</p>
<p>and the SATs are a bit lower than they should.....the averages given out by Cornell also include the 100s of community college transfers....so unless you're applying as a transfer, the regular decision pool is a lot more difficult</p>
<p>I read somehwere on CC that there was/is talk within Cornell of renaming ILR 'Industrial & Labor Relations' to something else... can anyone confirm/deny this rumor? Kind of off-topic, but I find this rather interesting.</p>
<p>hm, HR, whenever I hear HR I think Toby from "The Office", could you give some jobs that would fall under HR?</p>
<p>"I read somehwere on CC that there was/is talk within Cornell of renaming ILR 'Industrial & Labor Relations' to something else... can anyone confirm/deny this rumor?"</p>
<p>I've heard stuff like that before, but I can't confirm anything.</p>
<p>"whenever I hear HR I think Toby from "The Office", could you give some jobs that would fall under HR?"</p>
<p>it's a huge field, you may want to do some indpendent research, but activities might include recruitment, retention of employees (how do you do it), managing training classes for a company, determining pay, a few other things like this. HR manager was named a top-3 job by CNN Money. </p>
<p>HR is just one small part of the ILR school, let me remind you.</p>