Or they simply MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY.
“Not expensive whatsoever” is absolutely in the eye of the beholder.
@bearmom
Well I think you came across insulting, but if you say so.
I’m personally don’t care if OP comes or not. I’m giving advice to how OP can convince her parents to spend the few thousand for Gtech, which has the much better CS program. OP was just ill informed about Emory’s quality despite not having the best CS program in the state (although happens to be second place).
@Whovian18 OP you need to start looking for scholarships now. Here’s a link
https://www.scholarshipsforwomen.net/african-american/
@bjkmom
I’m not going to argue with you, but you’re being facetious. For an instate applicant with zell miller (which is what she has with a 4.0) it cost around $8000 a year. OP can take out a maximum of $5.500. Which leaves $2,500 for her parents (whom can also take out loans). If Op’s parents wanted Op to have a full ride then that’s irresponsible as getting a full ride is all luck. Gtech cost less than the local community college for OP’s parents. If they cant take out 2500 in loans for their child, I’m not sure what that means for OP and her parent’s relationship. OP is not being unreasonable, what so ever, as you were trying to suggest in your previous post( don’t say you weren’t cause you were the “welcome to the wonderful world of adulthood” line was very condescending and it’s quite clear you thought OP was OOS for Gtech and was asking her parents to pay a quarter million for an education, which she wasn’t), which is why I felt the need to correct you.
@VANDEMORY1342 The costs may be a little more than your quoted number. GT COA for an in-state student is running around $28,600 for the 2018-2019 school year and Zell Miller Scholarship is projected around $10,200 for GT next school year. The OP may have gotten a government grant (max is $5,900, I believe) but that would still leave over $12,500 remaining which would leave $7,000 for the parent/parents to pay. There could be many reasons that the OPs parent/parents are saying no, including them giving the OP the parameters of what they would do or not do for college costs up front. I have also seen cases where the parent/parents could not qualify for any Parent Plus loans due to bad credit. If a parent loan would cause hardship at all (what if there are other kids in the household?), they really may not be able to afford it. The OP’s parent/parents have done something right to have raised such an amazing student despite their financial limitations, so their reasons could be sound, but it is something a 18 year old may not want to hear. If the OPs parents/parent are just being unreasonable, then Emory is a way for the student to forge her own future path and control her destiny for all future decisions. Going to Emory for free is an amazing opportunity to change everything without being a possible financial burden for her family.
@VANDEMORY1342 The OP said she was accepted to Emory through Questbridge. Questbridge is a program specifically geared to “promising low income students.” This may be an indication that the OP’s family may not be able to comfortably afford (without loans, hardship) GT even at instate rates. We also do not know 1) The extent that any outside scholarships the OP gets may be deducted from any awards that GT has given and 2) if the OP’s family has the ability to take out the level of debt that might be needed to attend GT.
In addition, there is no guarantee that any one particular person starting as a CS major (the OP included) will thrive in that discipline and and land a $60,000/year job.
I agree with the majority opinion recommending that the OP attend Emory and graduate debt-free.
@happy1
You’re still making a few assumptions. A student that truly doesn’t like the school they are going to is less likely to succeed, also more likely to transfer and create more hardship ( I advocate for good mental health on campus so her not wanting to go to Emory is a red flag). Also I know OP didn’t explicitly say she didn’t like Emory however the connotation of her writing suggests she truly doesn’t like the place. One would think if they were given a full ride or close to it(I don’t know how QBridge works) they would give the school the benefit of any doubt and thoroughly investigate further if the school was right for their needs and wants, however she clearly didn’t do that so she really must not like our school lol (you did go to Emory right? I forget).
She should really start looking for scholarships today. Also this site is notorious for “find the school of BEST FIT” but now that doesn’t apply.
Maybe @berie12 will back me up?
@VANDEMORY1342 I think we are BOTH making assumptions and have said as much. I don’t see the OP saying he/she didn’t like Emory or that any mental health issues would likely arise from going there – from how I read the original post the concern was that Emory wasn’t as strong or wasn’t accredited in CS.
From what I can see, I am not sure the OP has sufficiently researched the opportunities at Emory as he/she referred to 1) the lack of ABET accreditation as an issue (which it is not for CS) and belief that it cannot provide an adequate undergrad CS education (which doesn’t seem to be the case) and 2)referred to Emory a medical school when that is not the case (it has a med school but that doesn’t impact its wide variety of excellent undergrad offerings).
In terms of best fit school…I think most posters are consistent in saying affordability is a major component of fit.
I think we will have to agree to disagree. And unless the OP comes back with more information (ex. the price differential, what his/her family can afford, a sense that he/she has thoroughly researched both school’s offerings etc) then there isn’t much else to say.
I believe in “fit” more than anyone on CC when it comes to one’s college experience, but we are not all privy to the same options, mainly due to family circumstances. The median household income of QB participant is $35,397. It would be very hard for an household with or without other children to contribute much towards a college education on that income or to take out loans. That doesn’t mean that GT isn’t possible, it just means the the OP may need to get more creative than asking her family to take out a loan. I am betting on this OP being able to make the best of whatever final outcome occurs, because she already has by making it this far.
So I see what you all are saying. But, i wanted to also get into electrical engineering as well and at tech, they have something called threads where I can study different aspects of CS. The devices thread is literally electrical engineering but for CS majors. Also, I wanted to study abroad and when I went to visit Meory, they said that they don’t have many study abroad options for CS since it’s such a small major at the school. And for those who asked GT would be making my family pay 14,000 a year (maybe less cause my parents filed separately for taxes this year) whilst Emory only wants 7,000 a year
I also applied there because it was my dream school and I had no idea what my financial aid package was going to look like. I have visited Emory before and it is a gorgeous school. I’m just not sure I’ll be receiving a good education as a CS major. Plus, if I wanted to change my major to a different tech field I wouldn’t be able to at Emory because they’re a liberal arts school so they don’t have a lot of tech options. And plus plus, I’d love to get involved in research and like I said before they’re a liberal arts school and so they don’t specialize in research, and if they do then it’s definetely not technology based
@Whovian18 Really, they are both prestigious schools and each would be fantastic. The problem remains that to do not have the money for G Tech. So if you cannot afford G Tech, I would look to what would be cool at Emory and make lemonade out of lemons.
OP, maybe you can ask for 2 years of help at GT and do paid internships to cover the rest of your expenses. The student I talked to in detail about internships earned enough from 1 internship to pay for 2 semesters of school at a time. That student had already paid for 2 years of his education and was already set to do one last internship to pay for his 5th year. Also, you will be able to stack any outside scholarships with Zell Miller (they won’t subtract from Zell Miller when you receive other scholarships). Will your family struggle taking out $8,500 in loans (you can have $5,500 in your name)? And have you offered to take over your families debt once you graduate? You may have to get creative (family fundraisers getting your village to buy into your potential).
@Whovian18
Please go to tech Emory cost 7,000 so your parents would have to take out some money anyway. Tell GTech about what Emory offered and see if they can reduce their price. Please don’t come to Emory, we for one do not have electrical engineering, so I’m not sure why you even applied, that’s bad judgement on your part, but your young so…, Also if Gtech is your dream school it would suck if you went to school 20 min from it, you would probably think about Gtech everyday and torture yourself.
Look for scholarships, and really beg your parents. Tell them Emory doesn’t have your major. Do they not understand that?
@bernie12
OP, what you need to do is make GT affordable. Have you talked to FA about getting more aid, about outside scholarships you might be eligible for, about work study opportunities? Can you live in a cheaper dorm? Go meet with someone and show them your numbers. Be honest and say you really want to go to GT and maybe someone can help you make a plan.
I don’t think you will need the full COA at either school. I’m sure you are used to making a dollar stretch, and college kids can do that with buying cheaper books, cheaper meal plans, working jobs that include meals (and tips), not spending money eating outside the meal plan and picking cheap or free entertainment.
I think you can make GT work. There are very few schools I think are worth the extra money, but GT is one of them.
@VANDEMORY1342 Oh so complimenting OP on the hard work for achieving a 4.0 and saying encouragingly, not once but twice that she will do well is insulting. That says more about you as the reader than what was actually written.
Oh so you work at Emory and are angry I mentioned her SAT.
It’s not bad judgement on her part to apply to a range of schools and hope that one will be affordable. YOU gave her little chance at Emory calling it a reach.
I’ve applied to outside scholarships, but they’ve all pretty much said no. Maybe I haven’t applied to enough or they’re just not the right ones. I’ve also gone to the financial aid office at GT and they said outside scholarships are pretty much my only option. I’ve told my parents repeatedly that I will gladly take over the debt especially considering I have a younger brother and sister who will be in college within the next ten years, but it seems like it goes in one ear and out the other. Emory does have a dual degree program with tech, but if I do CS at Emory and apply for a dual degree witch tech for EE, I’m not 100% I’d get into the program since most people who do the program are majoring in a medical field already , and combining two tech majors to them might seem pointless since they have a whole college who specializes in that stuff already
@Whovian18 Just in case it doesn’t work out for you at G Tech. Emory is doing research:
Biomedical Informatics is a hot field.
What the hell is going on?
@Whovian: Okay, I see…honestly, with CS, it is more about what YOU do…and not as much the coursework, though great course offerings can come in handy. Ultimately, you want to get good enough training so that you can get internships/jobs or start a personal project with your skills. Either school can do that. CS is one of those things where it is more important to put what you learn into action and is also just straight up a lot of self learning (I had to self-teach C and python during my MS in computational chemistry…it is possible to learn lots of things without a specific curriculum and any real CS person is going to be more into creative thinking or finding “their own way” of doing things anyway. I had to learn things typically not stressed at all in UG CS curriculum because I dealt with HPC a lot). If for some reason, you are really gifted or advanced and exhaust the coursework you are interested in: There are graduate courses, as well as more interdisciplinary courses hosted by some departments that heavily rely on computational skills (like physics). Emory is not going to stop you from doing something with the CS background. In addition, if really desperate, Joint-enrollment allows you to take courses absolutely not offered at Tech on your Emory fin. aid.
I personally would prefer you go to Tech, but if it is a financial reach, that is what it is. If you are truly ambitious and it is financially worth it, you can make Emory work in conjunction with other opps. to fill any “gaps” in the course based curriculum. Do not over-estimate the influence of course work (I honestly think coursework is more influential in the natural and physical sciences than CS). Plus, it isn’t about the the content so much how things are taught. Whether at Tech or anywhere, you would want to take those who truly focus on problem based learning and not mainly just memorizing code (believe it or not, it is possible to run a CS class in such a way). Instructors can claim to teach a class on something think is important and then basically not teach at all…
^And I read a review of an Emory CS grad working in Silicon Valley. It is about you and you clearly have the self discipline and drive that will be the most important in gradient for your success in CS as is evident by your GPA.
@Whovian : Also want to express appreciation of your maturity in not conflating a campus being gorgeous with the quality of your education. I see many of the so called “best and brightest” on here get swept up in such mess when looking at and comparing these selective schools (they bask in hair-splitting differences in student body quality, campus aesthetic, and academic quality and how the school will help them achieve their goals is only considered in the vaguest sense) . I’m glad you considered the academic differences and at least are trying to have this conversation. I have seen some shallow and dumb decisions made on here based upon things like: “Well this specific school offers my specific concentration of interest”…no knowing that certain concentrations are really just courses basically available at peer schools combined into a labelled degree track (and believe me, graduate schools and even employers are not going to care about hair splitting labels on the degree). I have also seen people do things like matriculate at Emory not knowing it doesn’t have engineering and claim they are there for BME and stuff. So you are already much better off than these folks.