<p>[Brooklyn</a> Technical High School](<a href=“http://bths.edu/GUIDANCE/office_info.jsp]Brooklyn”>Brooklyn Technical High School)</p>
<p>OP’s school is Brooklyn Technical High School, and the above link is to the guidance department.</p>
<p>As a Tech grad, I know Op’s school well (I even went to grad school with a couple of the GCs). The world gets smaller all of the time.</p>
<p>If OP can get to Bklyn Tech, she can get to City Tech, Downtown Bklyn and Hunter College- another 20 minutes on the 4/5 to 59th street and 1 stop to 68th Street.</p>
<p>Tech states in their college handbook that they:</p>
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<p>However, I remember my neice graduated from Tech a couple of years ago and applying to more than 10 colleges. </p>
<p>Although the senior class is quite large (~ 1000 students), it looks like Tech wants students who are applying to rolling admissions schools to get their applications out while it is still relatively early in the process (deadline 11/17 - CUNY deadline is 2/1). This also increases their chances of having every student be picked up by 1 or more rolling admissions school well before April.</p>
<p>SO at this juncture should have applied somewhere including SUNY and CUNY. If she did not, then I agree with alamemo, that she is just setting up road blocks for herself in the hope that her parents will buckle because she did not apply to any financial safeties.</p>
<p>Am I the only one with a problem with a high school that only “allows” a certain number of apps? Look circumstances change.</p>
<p>I have a problem with the idea that there is a certain number and the list must be given quite early. I can understand that schools may need to have some limits to handle the level of GC work, but there needs to be some flexibility. Many kids don’t learn of their family’s true financial abilities or intentions to pay until much later than early fall.</p>
<p>*then I agree with alamemo, that she is just setting up road blocks for herself in the hope that her parents will buckle because she did not apply to any financial safeties. *</p>
<p>I agree. She doesn’t want other solutions so that her family has no other options. That will backfire. **Even if her parents will be forced to buckle, they’ll have 4 years (or more) of “payback”. **Student wants to go abroad? NO…no money for that. Student needs a new phone or laptop? Sorry, no money for that. Student needs “pocket money”? Nope. New clothes? Uh uh…nada. Student needs a car during the summer? no money for that or for student’s car insurance either. The money will come from somewhere.</p>
<p>As metioned above…the student can add schools to the Common App with no problem. And other schools can be applied to and have scores sent…and then later get the GC to send transcripts.</p>
<p>OP, there was a recent article in the NY Times or the Wall Street Journal about students admitted to highly selective four year schools who are attending CUNYs to avoid huge student debt. Bottom line was that people were disappointed but were making things work, and were keeping their future prospects in mind. </p>
<p>I usually wholeheartedly agree with alamemom’s advice, but I’m not so sure that the OP is playing financial chicken with her parents. The OP wrote that her mother is willing to pay for Notre Dame because it’s a Catholic school. It might be that the mom couldn’t afford to pay the entire EFC, but the mom is apparently willing to pay something. Yet at the same time the parents turned down the OP’s suggestion that they split the $20k cost of attending a SUNY. Apparently, the parents can afford to pay something, but they’re not willing to pay for anything but ND. It’s not clear that they’d be contributing (outside
room and board) for a CUNY, and it’s also not clear that they’d be paying for grad school.</p>
<p>No, the parents do not appear to have offered anything for grad school, but a student can borrow considerably more for grad school than for undergrad w/o a co-signer, so often those with plans for grad school are strongly advised to avoid undergraduate debt (though I would also advise trying to avoid graduate debt as well if possible 
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<p>The OP has applied to ND, so if she is accepted and the parent is willing to pay, her problem no longer exists. But if she is not accepted or the parent changes her mind once she sees the bill, the OP needs a fall-back.</p>
<p>The CUNYs cost $5,130 per year (not including room, board & expenses), so if the parents are willing to provide room and board (which IS a contribution to the education even if the student doesn’t see it that way) at their home, the student can cover those costs with a Stafford loan and no cosigner. I am not saying the student should not pursue her preferred options, I am saying that good sense should tell her to be SURE she has an option for next fall. We see too many posting here in April and May who did not cover that base.</p>
<p>[Tuition</a> & Fees - Financial Aid - CUNY](<a href=“http://www.cuny.edu/admissions/financial-aid/estimating-costs/tuition-fees.html]Tuition”>http://www.cuny.edu/admissions/financial-aid/estimating-costs/tuition-fees.html)</p>
<p>1) From the Sea Gate neighborhood on Coney Island, it takes over an 1.1 hrs to get to Brooklyn Technical High School and 1.25 hours to get to Brooklyn College by public transportation. It’s even longer to any other CUNY. This sounds miserable. </p>
<p>2) It sounds like the OP had to have the CUNY transcript request in by Nov 17 also, and it wasn’t on the list the OP put out, so it may not even be an option</p>
<p>3) I suspect that if there are no options available on April 1, they will allow additional applications. </p>
<p>I really sympathize with the OP. I really hope that something can be worked out. However, there is not much to do now, so why worry.</p>
<p>^ your #2 - Again, the CUNY application is not due until 2/1, and the transcript is automatically retrieved for NY students via the CUNY application - the OP does not need their school to send the transcript.</p>
<p>alememom is correct, as long as the student has her ID # she submits her ID number on the application where requested and the transcript is automatically sent. In order to send her SAT scores, if she select the CUNY processing center (instead of individual CUNY schools), then each school will get her SAT scores.</p>
<p>CDR, kids travel to high school and college every day. I remember the long train ride to Tech and I knew kids who lived in the Bronx and in Queens right on the LI border, who took the bus & trains to Tech, Bx Science and Stuyvesant.</p>
<p>When I went to Queens college, I took 2 trains and 2 buses to get to school from Brooklyn. When I transferred to Baruch, I took 3 trains to get to school.</p>
<p>I totally feel for you. I’m kind of in the same situation, but not really since I’m poor. Scholarships are easier for me earn because of that, but i still know what you mean. </p>
<p>I’d say the best thing you could do is talk to your family about it, because you are just a kid and you shouldn’t be expected to take ALL the burden of paying. </p>
<p>Maybe take a loan from your parents?</p>
<p>Glad to hear that the student does NOT need GC cooperation to apply to more CUNYs since the transcript will be automatically retrieved!</p>
<p>*The OP has applied to ND, so if she is accepted and the parent is willing to pay, her problem no longer exists. But if she is not accepted or the parent changes her mind once she sees the bill, the OP needs a fall-back.
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<p>I agree!</p>
<p>I am concerned that once the parents see the ND bill, they won’t pay either. ND is NOT known for having generous FA formulas. I also think it’s odd that we’re only hearing what the mom is saying. What is the dad saying? Does the dad know about this ND promise??? And, if he does, does Dad know how much ND expect them to pay?</p>
<p>If this family doesn’t have a college fund for this student, it seems unlikely they can come up with the money for ND if ND expects a large contribution. </p>
<p>And, sorry, I just don’t buy this, “we’ll pay huge bucks for ND, but we won’t pay ONE DIME for any other school.” That’s just crazy. And, it sends a terrible message to the student that they truly can afford to pay, they just choose not to. </p>
<p>The student needs to call their bluff and send in a few more apps to some other Catholics. ND isn’t the only game in town.</p>
<p>Perhaps mom thinks that Op will get some kind of discount because they are catholic and she teaches religion (probably at a catholic school), but that is not going to happen.</p>
<p>If she said the student could live at home, she is helping him through college. Room and board are very significant. A parent doesn’t have to continue to provide that for an adult.</p>
<p>CUNY is a great way to keep costs down, even if it ends up being for a couple years, and then transferring.</p>
<p>The deadlines are past, but Macaulay honors should have been on your radar.</p>