My Thoughts on Choate

<p>I've been accused by several members of this board of providing unsubstantiated anti-Choate opinions. I've been further encouraged to relegate my opinions to a thread created especially to contain them. In order to explain why I do not like Choate, and so as not to derail the conversations occurring in other threads, I have created this one.</p>

<p>This bit of illiterate bleating (I will not deign to call it a speech) reveals more about Choate than any essay I could write.</p>

<p>Luke</a> Matarazzo: To Go or Not to Go?</p>

<p>To express my feelings about it, let me channel Henri de Montherlant:</p>

<p>Enrolling students with such a low level of intelligence, morality and overall human quality is offensive. Passing them through year after year--exalting them even by allowing them a forum to fully display their total lack of class, sophistication, education and decency--such a thing is nothing less than an assault on the ethos of civilization itself. I accuse Choate-Rosemary Hall of a permanent crime against humanity.</p>

<p>Exhibit B:</p>

<p>[Facebook</a> group attacked pupils: 2 girls expelled and 4 suspended at US school | Mail Online](<a href=“Facebook group attacked pupils: 2 girls expelled and 4 suspended at US school | Daily Mail Online”>Facebook group attacked pupils: 2 girls expelled and 4 suspended at US school | Daily Mail Online)</p>

<p>It is quite a thing when a school manages to enroll students of such a low character that their exploits are fodder for high-circulation newspapers in other countries!</p>

<p>Another proud moment in Choate history:</p>

<p>[2</a> Former Choate Students Admit Smuggling Cocaine - Los Angeles Times](<a href=“2 Former Choate Students Admit Smuggling Cocaine”>2 Former Choate Students Admit Smuggling Cocaine)</p>

<p>They say that the prison experience often only succeeds in pushing inmates to even higher levels of criminality. I doubt very much that these two students smuggled much cocaine before arriving in Wallingford.</p>

<p>Some choice reviews from greatschools.net (note that these are written by parents):</p>

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<p>A lot of truth in that bolded statement. Athletes, ethnic minorities and development cases really pad the placement numbers at Choate. Or they did in my year: excluding flagged applicants 5 students matriculated at HYPS (out of a class of 200+)!</p>

<p>Some have said that Choate has not had a distinguished alumnus in the past 30+ years. Although Dov Charney is not technically an alumnus (having been expelled in the Spring og his Senior year), this sexually-deviant CEO whose total lack of business sense and ethics have put his company perpetually on the brink of bankruptcy, is an interesting example of the type of person Choate both selects for and helps to create.</p>

<p>[Dov</a> Charney’s Sketchy, Scandalous History](<a href=“Dov Charney's Sketchy, Scandalous History”>Dov Charney's Sketchy, Scandalous History)</p>

<p>Wow…if only I had known all of this before applying last year (no worries though, I chose to go to another school instead :)).</p>

<p>I completely respect your opinion, Glanton. But as a note to others, remember, many school has problems like this, and EVERY school has kids who didn’t enjoy their time there. Look for MANY opinion before you form a definite opinion about a school.</p>

<p>I had seen several of these articles online before, and that was why I got a bad impression of Choate. Sorry for not digging these up; I’ve just been really lazy.</p>

<p>A few of the other Senior Speeches on the page with Luke Matarazzo’s are equally illuminating.</p>

<p>The cocaine incident happened twenty-five years ago.</p>

<p>im not only saying this because choate is my school… but drugs are a problem at ALOT of schools… even the top prep schools. Drug abuse isnt something you´ll only see at choate. and you cant account for a whole school and hold them responsible for bullying when it was only a group of girls. bullying happens everywhere. For example at deerfield there was a scandal involving gay students… if you´re going to dislike choate because of the reasons you have listed, you may aswell dislike every prep school in America because things like these occurs in all of them, whether it is publisized or not.</p>

<p>Glanton I find it curious that you did not respond to my post on the other board about the senior speech. This same “controversy” thread can be written about any prep school. The cocaine incident was 25 years ago…old news. The facebook thread was this year but so was this at andover <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/1036606-drug-ring-andover.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/1036606-drug-ring-andover.html&lt;/a&gt;. In recent years, this at deerfield <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/481858-deerfield-gay-students-targeted-11.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/481858-deerfield-gay-students-targeted-11.html&lt;/a&gt; and this at St. Paul School [Racist</a> Hate Mail Probed at NH Prep School - ‘Bang bang get out,’ threaten letters sent to black students<a href=“the%20FBI%20had%20to%20be%20involved”>/url</a></p>

<p>If you want more scandals to tout this may be a helpful website: [url=&lt;a href=“http://privateschool.about.com/od/issues/qt/scandals.htm]Prep”&gt;Private School]Prep</a> School Scandals - Scandals at Private Schools](<a href=“Racist Hate Mail Probed at NH Prep School”>Racist Hate Mail Probed at NH Prep School)</p>

<p>There is scandal everywhere, no institution is perfect. As for the parent reviews, they’re interesting but I would not consider them to be “all-telling” or “all-encompassing” of Choate. </p>

<p>You seem to have nothing but bad things to say about Choate, could you offer some constructive criticism?</p>

<p>Maybe you will read it here. :)</p>

<p>@ Glanton, I completely understand the perspective from which you are coming from. To address your questions:

  1. How do you think it reflects on Choate that they accept students like Luke Matarazzo?
    Please point me to where in the application there is thorough personality assessment as well as a prophet that tells the admissions office every decision that the applicant has made in the past and will make in the future? It is impossible to know every single thing about every single student that applies to anything. Unless someone has a tangible record, like a police report or something that reflects character. This speech is a snapshot in time of Luke’s development of character. As you can tell by reading it, his character evolved from acceptance into Choate up until his senior year. His character is even evolving now. That is because Choate is not a corporation it is a high school. Albeit the students that attend Choate are above average. We are above average when it comes to academics, athletics and all of these tangible characteristics. But we are still teenagers and we are still human. I’m not sure your intent in highlighting Luke’s speech, perhaps to indict Choate into letting in someone that outwardly shows he isn’t perfect? I am not sure. The reality is that for those who expect Choate kids to be superhuman and above the natural inner workings of the world is ridiculous. We are teenagers, the school knows this. This is why they have full time psychologists on campus, easily accessible to the students. Within Choate, adolescent development is still at play. I will admit, some experiences I had this year made me question the role of the school in the students’ lives. But this summer it seems as though I went through an epiphany. Choate is strict in what they expect from its students because they want to build good character in us. They understand that stumbles will emerge but they are willing to help us pick ourselves up. But they know that 9 times out of 10 we know better. So perhaps from your point of view, Luke’s speech shines Choate in a bad light. I disagree, I think it shines Choate in a light of reality. Luke’s speech is real, it doesn’t sugarcoat the thoughts that most teenagers have. If this wasn’t reality there wouldn’t be a myriad of books written about adolescent behavior and development. I missed the moment when Choate became a utopia. It is a real, living breathing institution whose sole purpose is to educate and build character in adolescents. </p>

<p>2) How do you think it reflects on the judgment of the Choate faculty that they (the 6th-form dean anyways) chose Luke Matarazzo to give a senior speech?</p>

<p>I think that the Choate faculty or 6th form dean wanted to offer a sense of reality to the students through Luke’s clear understanding of it. From my perspective, Luke’s speech offered a dose of reality. He wasn’t afraid to tell the truth. Quite refreshing if you ask me. In fact, pay close attention to the end of his speech. His advice has to do with accepting Choate for what it has to offer and taking advantage of these opportunities. The advice at the end of his speech, “Put on a complete front if you have to, because the more people you have on your side, and the more people you befriend over the years, the easier life will be, especially at Choate” refers to characteristics of adulthood. When you are being nice to someone that you don’t like or disagree with it’s not called “being fake” it’s called growing up. Can you see how Luke’s advice could help an adult in corporate America when dealing with their boss? Even if someone is smarter and possesses more ingenuity than their boss, they can’t “buck the system” and show their disdain for the person that writes their paycheck, they have to suck it up and put a smile on their face and work hard. In this, they can climb the ranks and find success. What do you think would happen if they told their boss to shove it? They would be fired and sure their point would have been made but at what cost? But this analogy doesn’t even fully apply to Choate, because Choate does not make and enforce the rules it does just for fun or because they just want to wield control over people, Choate has rules because it cares about us. The school wants us to grow into strong, smart, hard-working, rule-following individuals. Sure there is room for a little non-conformity, and they account for the stumbles that arise from our need to rebel. But to a point. Glanton you graduated but can you say that you didn’t learn from your time from Choate? Whether you view this as positive or negative you grew. Even in your ability to critically think about your time at Choate you grew and learned from your time there. You now walk with an awareness that you gained from Choate, whether positive or negative. So I respect the faculty that gave Luke a speech.</p>

<p>3) How do you think it reflects on the academic and social education provided by Choate that, after three years of it, Luke Matarazzo wrote a speech like that?</p>

<p>I think the above explains the academic and social education that Choate gave Luke. Luke now goes to a great liberal arts college and I think based on the very structure of his speech it is clear that he grew during his time at Choate. I could cite child psychology all day, the facts remain the same. Choate is not a perfect institution. Do they do a darn good job of educating people? Obviously. I could reference all of the famous alumni that came out of the school but most notably, I think that Choate produces critical thinkers. Case in point? You, Glanton. </p>

<p>P.S. I realize after rereading your original point you didn’t really show a bias in your questions so sorry if I come off as extremely argumentative. Choate has also taught me how to care about issues and debate.</p>

<p>This thread is actually ridiculous. I have already reported it for such strong accusations. Glanton, you make it seem like all of us Choate students are snobby rich kids who were only admitted because we had money and not due to our academic achievements. Well guess what?! You have accurately pin-pointed a huge total of…10% of the school! Congrats! You have failed to account for us other 90% who compose some of the most well rounded, intellectual and hard working students in the country. Yes, Choate is not perfect as you have so viciously pointed out, but no school is perfect and EVERY SCHOOL HAS SCANDALS!!! You are giving us a bad name and it is beyond offensive. Is this really how you chose to spend your time after graduating 10 years ago? Wow.</p>

<p>Wow…I would love for you to one day meet this remarkable young man. “Illiterate bleating”…I think not. A bit sardonic, absolutely. Meant to entertain and add humor, yes. His difficult choice to leave the comfortable confines of his public high school, life changing. The friends he made, the diversity encountered, priceless. </p>

<p>I hope you get to meet Luke Matarazzo one day. He is a man who will and is already making our world better.</p>

<p>I don’t really like Choate either, but ■■■■■!</p>

<p>I don’t know the first thing about Choate and was curious enough to read the speech. Clearly the style in which is delivered would mean a lot. On paper the words reminded me a bit of this other essay Qdvice to Youth, by Mark Twain.</p>

<p>[Advice</a> to Youth, by Mark Twain - Classic Essays - Essays by Mark Twain](<a href=“http://grammar.about.com/od/classicessays/a/adviceyouth.htm]Advice”>English Grammar)</p>

<p>John F Kennedy</p>