<p>lmfao @ the nyu bashing</p>
<p>all i have to say is.....NYU RULES!</p>
<p>I will attend this fall!</p>
<p>I hope Stern?</p>
<p>nah. stern = not the school for my major</p>
<p>i have a few friends at NYU, and they all have pretty much the same opinion on the school. For the most part, if you're into the whole city aspect, you'll have fun. What they dont like is the lack of a "regular" college experience. This includes a campus, doms that you dont need several forms of ID to get into, frat houses, football games with big prep rallys, stuff like that. They say that the city is fun on the weekends, but come weekdays it can be a big distraction and it's never possible to get away if you need a break. </p>
<p>NYU seems like the type of atmosphere that you need to love or you wont have a very fun time. Sure, it's exciting to think "i'm moving to NYC next fall" but dont forget NYC is expensive and crowded and NYU is right in the middle of it all. Some love it, others are very dissapointed. At Cornell's "transfer day" last semester, I can recall talking to at least 3 or 4 NYU students who were looking to transfer. They said it just wasn't their thing. It's all personal i guess.</p>
<p>"regular" college experience? That's a matter of interpretation. I had no interest in frat houses, or football games in college, nor pep rallys. My S and his friends think football is overrated. I tend to agree. I can see where the city would be a distraction though. But he finds the NYU library to be a great oasis. He doesn't have far to get home which he did one week-end in the fall, besides Thanksgiving. </p>
<p>doms that you dont need several forms of ID to get into? My S swipes his NYU ID - that's it! It's funny, my S feels very safe in his dorm and there has been no theft problems on his floor. That wasn't the case at a private bucolic boarding school that he attended for one year (and hated). Theivery all the time! Hmmm...almost every dorm that we have visited on a college campus, you need to show an ID or swipe it. That's not the case at Cornell?</p>
<p>I have met many NYU students who haven't liked it. I have no interest in football games, pep rallys (are you thinking high school?), or frats either. There are plenty of schools with campuses w/o these traits. </p>
<p>But I do have an interest in knowing alot of people, having awesome parties to go to (house parties) and the community atmosphere and green campus that NYU lacks. NYU is unique and very different, if you like it you'll love it, but if you don't it is probably one of the worst choices out there. NYC is very different from DC or even Chicago, those are more condusive to college kids. NYU is for a certain type, its not a "laid back" college scene with big weekends You are trading a campus and community for the city, be aware of the decision.</p>
<p>I think what gomestar is trying to say is that the "traditional" college experience most kids have is to have a nice college campus like those shown in brochures. The ones with nice green lawns and bulidings and peole walking on built roads cut into those nice lawns.</p>
<p>However, NYU and NYC is busy streets with busy adults and lots of traffic/people. </p>
<p>It's different strokes for different folks.</p>
<p>Yes, different strokes for different folks, I agree.</p>
<p>acceptedtocollegealready was right in my assumption: it is, i wasn't trying to narrow down the definition of "regular" college experience to mean football games ... but rather the common image that is ususally associated with the term "college experience." It varies from person to person, some might think of big football rivalries (as i hinted), others might think of age old academic buildings where generations of students have attended before. These are all things that colleges have in one way or another. The streets of NYC usually don't pop into one's head upon pondering images associated with "regular college experience."</p>
<p>On the subject of "needing multiple IDs to get into the dorms" my friend say they have to sign in and out of a log book (or something of this sorts) if they want to go out on the weekends. They were complaining to me about it a while back. The regulations seema alot more relaxed at Cornell.I never lock my dorm room (unless i'll be gone overnight or something) nor does anybody in my hall. No need to. You'll need to swipe a card to get into the major dorm complex, but sometimes they're just left unlocked in the day. It's Ithaca, NY - not exactly the place of cunning theives. </p>
<p>Different strokes for different folks is correct. I just think students need to understand what they're getting into before they make a college decision. If NYC was the place i wanted to spend my undergraduate college career in, NYU would be at the very top of my decision choice. I emphasize the undergraduate part since I am highly considering NYU and Columbia for law school.</p>
<p>"It's Ithaca, NY - not exactly the place of cunning theives."</p>
<p>Keep your doors locked, my friend.</p>
<p>I still remember that summer day when I came back to my room on Seneca Street, only to find that someone had broken in through the fire escape..</p>
<p>He/she/they may not have been exactly cunning, but they robbed about four rooms upstairs in that house that day, and did quite well for themselves.</p>
<p>I totally agree with gomestar, the concept of a college experience includes much more than football. NYU is unlike anyplace else and its not what most people consider a typical college experience. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out, I think many head to NYU not fully aware of what life at the school fully entails.</p>
<p>"I think many head to NYU not fully aware of what life at the school fully entails." Slipper, I think you are correct, but I would argue that this is the case at many schools, not just NYU. </p>
<p>I think many 18 - 19 year olds head off to college and don't know what it fully entails. I have known three different students who started off at Cornell and weren't happy by the holiday time and were thinking of transferring. They didn't end up doing that because I think it takes time for adjustments and I don't think they want to give up that Ivy name. I have known a young man who started at Connecticut College and was unhappy within two weeks and transferred out by the next semester - he felt the students were too much into the alcohol and marijuana. He is at Vanderbilt now and much happier. My S started at NYU and had a big adjustment in the first two months (he was 17 going off to college) - going from suburban to urban, going from having your own room to sharing an apt. with five others, going from driving everywhere to walking everywhere. I said to him when he was deciding that "NYU does not have a traditional campus feel, etc. " I thought he might want to transfer (although I didn't suggest it) but he absolutely loves it now. My point is that there are adjustments for everyone wherever you might go. For my S - he has found people that he really likes, including a wonderful girfriend and he really likes his professors this semester. Do an overnight visit if you can to help you determine if a certain school is the right place.</p>
<p>Regarding theivery - about 15 years ago, I was going into NYC 3 -4 times a week for graduate classes at NYU at all hours. Nothing ever happened to me and nothing was stolen. At that same time, we did a vacation in Vermont, doing a hike where the Long Trail meets the Appalachian Trail. We parked our car there at the parking lot right at the highway and it was broken into and everything of value was stolen - money, checkbook, credit cards and worst of all my camera that I had just taken fabulous photos of my family in the gorge. We had to cut our vacation short because they had our address and our keys. Who would have thunk in rural bucolic Vermont. Apparently someone was targeting that parking lot because we were not the first. Crime can happen anywhere!</p>
<p>monydad - well, you're describing a place off campus, i really mean only the Cornell campus. It's pretty easy to pick out a non-Cornell student and there are so many students on campus, that i think would-be robbers just forget it at the expense of getting caught. Of course crime can happen anywhere, but i have yet to hear of anything being stolen from any dorms thus far on the Cornell campus.</p>
<p>While I too would postulate that there is almost certainly much more crime around NYU than around Cornell, I think you're being a bit rosey-eyed.</p>
<p>When I attended Cornell, petty thefts from dorm rooms did occur on occasion. There were even rapes on campus. Not on Seneca Street, not in downtown Ithaca, on campus. I'm sure Campus Security has some incidents on its blotter every year.</p>
<p>I know someone who had their dorm room burgled at Vassar. Crime can happen everyplace, pretty much. Not to the same extent, I'm sure, but not nothing either.</p>
<p>Just did a little googling and found this...</p>
<p>Not a robbery but a stabbing!! And very recently! Is this what students should look forward to in a "typical college experience" ? As I said,crime can happen anywhere.</p>
<p>Hear! Hear! monydad.</p>
<p>I always thought Cornell students were more into guns:
<a href="http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/dsoc375/studentproj/Website/%5B/url%5D">http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/dsoc375/studentproj/Website/</a></p>
<p>here is a comparison of infraction/crime statistics 2004 from the IPEDS COOL website</p>
<p>offense, NYU number, Cornell number</p>
<p>on-campus drug arrests, 0, 22
public property drug arrests, 590, 8 (The NYU number has been over 1000)</p>
<p>on-campus liquor arrests, 0, 16
public property liquor arrests 100, 0</p>
<p>on-campus disciplinary actions drugs 65, 17
on-campus disciplinary actions liquor, 153, 102</p>
<p>non-campus arrests drugs, 0, 13
non-campus arrests liquor, 0, 82</p>
<p>non-campus disciplinary actions drugs, 155, 0
non-campus disciplinary actions liquor, 551, 4</p>
<p>[Cornell had 22 drug offenses and 216 liquor offenses reported by State and local police. NYU apparently did not report this data.]</p>
<p>sex offenses forcible on-campus, 5, 8
sex offenses non-campus, 4, 0</p>
<p>burglary on-campus 14, 2
burglary non-campus 61, 3</p>
<p>car theft on-campus 0, 38 (NYU has no campus roads)
car theft non-campus, 0, 0 </p>
<p>criminal offense public property-robbery, 9, 1
criminal offense public property-car theft, 6, 0</p>
<p>[Cornell had 13 burglaries reported by state and local police, NYU did not report this statistic]</p>
<p>Keep in mind NYU has more students?</p>