<p>NYU has about 25% bigger enrollment. true.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind the "rural cop" mentality vs. the urban cop mentality. An underage friend was once openly drinking a beer while walking down a street in NYC my first year. The cops just told him to toss it. In Ithaca the same offense would likely mean a violation or more.</p>
<p>i think the statistics are more of a reflection of the police and not the students, exactly what slipper said. Students everywhere (except maybe an ultra-conservative religious school) will do drugs and alcohol. My friend at manhattan school of music said the most popular spot for his friends to smoke pot is (believe it or not) right around central park. He said the cops usually wont care and that they have bigger issue to focus on rather than a few college students using marijuana. This wouldn't be the same in Ithaca, despite the fact that it's a very liberal town. Also, we really can't compare on campus of NYU vs. any other school (due to the lack of a true campus). It probably throws off the numbers a bit. </p>
<p>Crime is evident everywhere, no doubt it. I'm just not worried about leaving my door unlocked at Cornell. </p>
<p>Peacemaker - that is rather unusual on the Cornell campus, but not on college campuses in general. A friend told me that there were 8 stabbings in the Colgate University area last year (surprising considering the town is significantly smaller than Ithaca, and the campus itself is only around 12-13% the size of Cornell's).</p>
<p>i'm not sure which campus has more true crime, but i dont really care much either. My original point was mainly i'm not worried about leaving my dorm room door unlocked. I'll lock it in my apartment next year, my roomate and I both race bicycles and we will keep the bikes in the apartment. If they're stolen, we've lots alot of money!</p>
<p>The local police near Collegetown in Ithaca seemed pretty reasonable to me. I think they see a lot of typical teenage behavior and don't really make many waves.</p>
<p>Remember there are as many, or more students in Ithaca as there are townspeople. So nobody there is unacustomed to student behavior.</p>
<p>There was a specific incident once that I'm quite familiar with, in Collegetown, involving the wall around a local bank, a great deal of beer and IMO inadequate restroom facilities in the area, and I think that particular incident was handled very leniently.</p>
<p>I believe the wall around that bank has been removed subsequently.</p>
<p>Regarding my last post (#58) I just want to set the record Straight:
These were photos of a very famous incident that took place in the late '60s, and so far as I am aware do not represent current student conduct. (Though I don't know what those ROTC guys do). Someday I need to figure out how to use one of those smiley-face things, to identify attempted levity.</p>
<p>Regarding the substantive part of this discussion, post #47 captures my feeling about it. I have been around both "campuses" (quotes for NYU's benefit) for extended periods of time. I have actually studied and worked at both these schools. Though not at the same stage of life, and not recently. Lived all over Cornell and Ithaca, and within a mile of NYU. As close as many of its "dorms"; closer than some of them.</p>
<p>Because people blend into the city and go away from each other so easily, it is much more difficult to achieve a sense of community at NYU. This diffusion can easily impair the depth of student interaction, friendships, and sense of connection to the school. When I was there I also felt it was a highly bureaucratic, "take a number" kind of place. I felt that Cornell was a higher quality operation, all the way around.</p>
<p>Ithaca is not NYC, but it is a cultural hub for surrounding finger lakes communities, and you are surrounded by 20,000, or whatever the number is, kids about your age that cannot so easily disappear from each other. The resulting activity level is really not bad at all. And I think because people stay together and interact more, there is a much higher level of connection between each other and with the school.</p>
<p>That said, I cannot convince my own daughter of this and she is probably applying to NYU (Tisch) and not to Cornell.</p>
<p>Post #58 and #65 - You have a sense of humor monydad! </p>
<p>My summary - Cornell and NYU probably feel and are very different. I think you can receive an equally challenging coursework and excellent education. Cornell might feel safer to some but I will still tell my D or S as they go to college, to lock the door behind you whether you are in the city, suburbs or country because crime can occur anywhere. But don't let fear drive your life. Just take the precautions that are necessary. That's what I learned growing up on the southside of Chicago. </p>
<p>If you get involved in small groups at either school, you foster a sense of community and belonging. Those friendships in those activities will probably stay with you for the rest of your life.</p>
<p>i didnt think re informing everyone of my friends status would spark such a discussion. i forgot to mention that he in fact did not get into NYU ED and didnt even apply to cornell. But hopefully, he will be sending in his deposit soon for SUNY Geneseo, which i hope he attends over SUNY Binghampton</p>
<p>haha, all of that wasted time and energy!!!</p>
<p>it's all good, it's been a fun thread and i hope it doesn't die. I enjoy talking about my college and hearing about it compared to others. </p>
<p>It's a shame he didn't get into NYU, but bing and geneseo are both very fine schools (i would also pick geneseo myself).</p>
<p>That is so funny! ditto, gomestar. </p>
<p>I don't know much about Geneseo, even where it is?! Maybe someone should start a new thread about the NY State schools. I was thinking about visiting Binghamton with my D. Someone tell me about Geneseo. Is it appealing to out of staters?</p>
<p>for in state, it's considered to be among the best SUNY school. Depending on who you ask, some may say binghamton, some may say Geneseo ... it was really like 50/50 at my high school. </p>
<p>The biggest difference that seems to separate the two schools is the fact that geneseo is more "liberal arts" oriented while binghamton is more big research university style. </p>
<p>Geneseo is located near Rochester, maybe a 30 or so minute drive. I think it's a good location, it's "in the middle of nowhere" with a city not far away. Kind of the best of a rural location with a close by populous city (with awesome guitar and music stores, might I add). </p>
<p>I have dozens of friends at both Geneseo and Binghamton, and geneseo would win the "happy students" award hands down. The only reason i would really recomend binghamton would be for financial reasons (after all, it is cheap). There's a thread on the suny binghamton forum titled "Will binghamton crack the top 70?" that gives alot of eye-opening information about the school. I dont think Geneseo is very appealing to out of staters, but the opposite is true for in state. Many of the top students from my high school graduating class chose Geneseo. Binghamton gets all of the attention, but i'd pick geneseo over it. </p>
<p>My favorite SUNY goes to Buffalo ... great academics and a great city. </p>
<p>Peacemaker, if you decide to visit Binghamton (i do recomend if you're considering it as an option), swing by Cornell as well. I think it's only like 45 or so minutes away, worth the drive.</p>