Nashville school shooting

D just texted that she knows the DIL of one of the victims; not well, but still… The world becomes very small in these situations. :cry:

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Female mass shooters are extremely rare that is why gender at birth for this individual is relevant

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Not much to say. Senseless. A tragedy that is going to destroy lives. I’m sick of thoughts and prayers followed by no action. Too many guns and too few politicians willing to stand up to the gun lobby.

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The police were at the school in Denver after the shooting last week within minutes. There were no resources officers in the school because one of the school board members led a movement to remove them in 2020 because, he claimed, they made the students feel anxious and belittled.

They are back in schools this week, because the mayor and the police chief said so (and really said to the school board ‘tough, we don’t care if the students feel bad about the police presence, we want them to BE safe’. The state legislature also met in special session over the weekend to pass some gun laws, some they’d been considering this session anyway.

Why should we even have to have armed officers in an elementary school? Are we to accept that this is the way to fix what’s going on? Putting guns in our kids’ schools? I’m just not okay with that being any kind of fix for anything.

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What our generation has done to “generation lockdown” is unbearably cruel and shameful.

One evening last week, The campus I work at had a prolonged shelter in place due to a reported sighting of an armed person. It ended up being a student who was running with a curling iron. Tell me we are not dealing with widespread PTSD from an entire childhood full of lockdown drills and mass shootings.

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Tell that to the next parent that loses a kid. I mean a 6 year old shot a teacher in Va.

I do wonder though about what if a school resource officer got shot first.

@kelsmom i get it. I don’t know the answer. But the answer is not prayer. Maybe it’s metal detectors or locked doors. I dunno.

But I don’t want to be that parent. I can’t imagine.

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This is sort of off topic to this thread…but some schools have metal detectors, and almost all now have locked doors with a single point of entry often staffed with a security guard.

I’d personslly like to see this the standard at every school.

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I look forward to the day where we never have a thread like this again.

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I’m all for additional security and screenings at schools, bring it on.

But Raise your hand if you know someone who wants to apply for that job as security guard.

Today all that matters is the people whose lives changed forever today. But tomorrow (in actuality right now) think about the students who don’t want to go to school, the teachers and administrators who have to brush off their fear and another blow to the gut today to go back in the classroom tomorrow. The students in college studying education again questioning their field of study.

All which digs our education holes and woes deeper snd deeper.

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It’s impossible in a lot of schools. Where I went to school in FL pretty much all classrooms opened to the outside - there were no indoor hallways.

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It’s possible if the school were to put a high fence around its property, and it would include all its outdoor space.
D2 went to such school at a high risk country. The whole school was fenced in, and it included their football, soccer, tennis areas. All classrooms had outdoor access because it was a tropical area. Everyone needed ID to enter the school and the school had one single entry point. Once the kids were on campus, they were free to move about. The kids didn’t feel constrained.
What we all need to think about if it is how we want to live.

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News coverage indicated that Covenant’s doors were locked. The shooter shot the door open. This was apparently a very well planned attack.

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Our school system did that at H’s school. They don’t have as many outside doors as every classroom, but they did put up a 8-10’ fence around the back end of the school. It has helped keep the bears off the field at least.

The problem with the locked doors is complacency. It’s a pain for teachers and staff, and often people leave them propped open. H gets on people all the time doing that to his gym door.

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Or mentally ill.

https://www.chds.us/sssc/charts-graphs/


And the Congressman representing the Covenant School district sent a holiday card 2 years ago with the family toting guns. Lovely Nashville Rep. Andy Ogles Posted a Gun-Filled Family Christmas Photo

I feel like we as a society have decided that these shootings can be tolerated, that we can live with this.

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Shooter entered school building through 2 sets of double doors by shooting out the glass doors.