National Universities Where Most Accepted Students Enroll

[Sparkeye7]

<p>National Universities Where Most Accepted Students Enroll</p>

<p>Take a look at the yield rates for these ranked institutions.</p>

<p>By Katy Hopkins
January 28, 2013</p>

<p>National</a> Universities Where Most Accepted Students Enroll - US News and World Report</p>

[beyphy]

<p>Cool link. The yield rates for UCLA and Berkeley are much closer than I think many would assume.</p>

[XtremePower]

<p>BYU is above Harvard…Is it because of the price of BYU ?</p>

<p>LOL at Drexel. 11% yield rate. Who would wanna pay 36k for Drexel…</p>

[collegedadnh]

<p>BYU is really affordable and thus very high value for the money! If we were mormons my kids would be going there. We’re not and I still considered it due to its off the charts value.</p>

[collegedadnh]

<p>ok experts, what does the high yield tell us parents? It seems more like a good stat for admissions officers in that it says they marketed to and admitted the right set of students for what they have to offer.</p>

[whenhen]

<p>BYU and Yeshiva both have extremely high yields rates because they cater to the needs of very specific, very conservative religious groups. Most high achieving mormons only apply to BYU Provo and maybe BYU Idaho if they need a safety. The same is true for high achieving Hassidic Jews. They apply to Yeshieva, maybe one other safety, and consider themselves done. </p>

<p>Also yield rates are basically useless. Drexel’s low yield is mostly explained by the way they bring in applications. They’ll email basically every average to above average high school senior with a free application, and then admit without considering interest. So of course their yield will be 11%. Most students that apply only do so because it’s free. </p>

<p>Other high yield rates are the result of the university being the only one in the area. University of North Dakota has a higher yield than Cal Tech. Does anyone actually believe that UND provides a better education than Cal Tech? Its yield can mostly be explained by the fact that it’s in North Dakota, not because it’s particularly academically noteworthy.</p>

<p>IMHO the most important data points are incoming students stats, amount of debt a schools graduates incur, and the freshmen retention rate (which can partially be explained by incoming student’s stats and ability to afford the school in question).</p>

[rjkofnovi]

<p>“Also yield rates are basically useless.”</p>

<p>End of thread.</p>

[mom2collegekids]

<p>I think yield rates have some meaning when also acceptance rate is included. </p>

<p>A school with a lowish acceptance rate also has a high yield rate, then that can be meaningful. </p>

<p>If a school accepts nearly everyone, then it’s high yield rate may be less impressive.</p>

[ucbalumnus]

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@XtremePower

BYU is above Harvard…Is it because of the price of BYU ?

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<p>Low cost and generally good academics mean that BYU is often a top choice among observant LDS members who find the social environment attractive, while non-LDS members would generally not bother to apply due to finding the social environment unattractive.</p>

[tk21769]

<p>^ Location probably is another factor in BYU’s yield. West of the Rockies, or even West of the Mississippi, there just aren’t as many selective, private research universities as there are in the East. In the US News top 50, there’s Stanford, Caltech, USC, and Rice (plus the UCs, Texas and Wisconsin.) </p>

<p>Most students choose to go to college fairly close to home.
What’s the alternative to BYU in Utah?<br>
Notice the other Western schools in that list:
Nebraska, Alaska, UNLV, North Dakota, South Dakota State.</p>

[Scipio]

<p>Interesting, but these are yield rates from 2011. Any more recent data available?</p>

[Sam_Lee]

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non-LDS members would generally not bother to apply due to finding the social environment unattractive.

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<p>I am sure many wouldn’t mind or would be willing to suck it up for the low cost. But non-LDS members generally wouldn’t be accepted. The school gets lots of contribution from the LDS members. That’s how the tuition stays low. It’d be unfair for any non-LDS members to enjoy the affordable education without their families ever contributing anything before.</p>

[XtremePower]

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@Sam Lee

But non-LDS members generally wouldn’t be accepted.

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<p>^Then, a Catholic person can mention LDS on their application and enjoy the low price. </p>

<p>Does BYU take an additional step to verify that the applicant really is a mormon ?
Now I kinda regretting about not applying there.
Its a highly ranked private University with a ridiculously low price tag.</p>

[Sam_Lee]

<p>My guess is if the applicants’ families are LSD members, the church would know. Mormom church seems to be highly organized if I am not mistaken. I met 3 BYU grads before and they definitely practice their religion.</p>

[qialah]

<p>From the BYU admissions site:</p>

<p>[BYU</a> Admissions - Acceptance Criteria](<a href=“http://saas.byu.edu/tools/b4byu/sites/b4/?new-freshman/acceptance-criteria2/]BYU”>http://saas.byu.edu/tools/b4byu/sites/b4/?new-freshman/acceptance-criteria2/)

Comprehensive Admission Review (What we look at…)
Every new freshman applicant undergoes the following review process:</p>

<p>1.The first consideration in the review process is the ecclesiastical endorsement. Each applicant must be endorsed by his or her ecclesiastical leaders as one who is worthy to attend BYU and is living in harmony with the Honor Code and the Dress and Grooming Standards (BeSmart.com/honorcode). Applicants who are not members of the LDS Church need to be interviewed by an LDS bishop.

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[beyphy]

<p>They also note that their low tuition works as a subsidy for LDS members, just like how state subsidize state universities. In an also parallel way, just how states charge OOS tuition, BYU charges non-LDS tuition</p>

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• A significant portion of the cost of operating the university is paid from the tithes of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Therefore, students and families of students who are tithe-paying members of the Church have already made a contribution to the operation of the university. Because others will not have made this contribution, they are charged a higher tuition, a practice similar in principle to that of state universities charging higher tuition to nonresidents.

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<p><a href=“http://yfacts.byu.edu/article?id=85[/url]”>http://yfacts.byu.edu/article?id=85&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[JuniorMint]

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Interesting, but these are yield rates from 2011. Any more recent data available?

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<p>There are a few [url=<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/college-admits-2013/]here[/url”>Colleges Report 2013 Admission Yields and Wait-List Offers - The New York Times]here[/url</a>], from 2013.</p>

[xiggi]

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School name Students accepted First year enrollment Yield</p>

<p>Brigham Young University–Provo 7,055 5,624 79.7%
Harvard University 2,188 1,661 75.9%
Stanford University 2,437 1,707 70.0%
University of Nebraska–Lincoln 5,943 4,093 68.9%
Yeshiva University 1,261 855 67.8%
University of Alaska–Fairbanks 1,610 1,072 66.6%
Georgia Southern University 5,456 3,542 64.9%
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 1,742 1,126 64.6%
Yale University 2,109 1,351 64.1%
University of Pennsylvania 3,935 2,467 62.7%
University of North Dakota 3,439 2,091 60.8%
University of Nevada–Las Vegas 4,746 2,870 60.5%
University of Alabama 9,636 5,728 59.4%
University of New Orleans 1,862 1,104 59.3%
University of Memphis 4,452 2,577 57.9%
Cleveland State University 2,389 1,377 57.6%
Columbia University 2,418 1,391 57.5%
Princeton University 2,300 1,300 56.5%
North Dakota State University 4,383 2,420 55.2%
Brown University 2,757 1,507 54.7%
University of Florida 11,786 6,429 54.5%
University of Alabama–Huntsville 1,243 677 54.5%
National-Louis University 48 26 54.2%
Lamar University 2,894 1,564 54.0%
University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill 7,469 4,026 53.9%

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<p>The above excerpt of that article tells you EXACTLY what one can conclude from such exercise in futility. The comparison of yields means absolutely nothing as it mixes highly selective schools that are highly desirable and utterly mediocre schools that are filled with students who have no other option than to accept the offer. Think HYPS for the former and Nebraska for the latter. </p>

<p>Yield is a yardstick that is important to enrollment managers, and perhaps to some misguided alumni fanboys. For the rest of the world, it is both insignificant and meaningless to draw conclusions about quality of education, selectivity, or desirability. </p>

<p>Again, it means NOTHING!
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[whenhen]

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^ Location probably is another factor in BYU’s yield. West of the Rockies, or even West of the Mississippi, there just aren’t as many selective, private research universities as there are in the East. In the US News top 50, there’s Stanford, Caltech, USC, and Rice (plus the UCs, Texas and Wisconsin.)

Yeshiva is in the heart of NYC. I’d hardly say there’s a paucity of private schools in the Northeast. </p>

<p>Both BYU and Yeshiva have such high yields because they cater to an ultra-religious population and are perceived to be the best schools for the particular religious groups so members of the sects only apply to them and maybe one other school.</p>

[rjkofnovi]

<p>"Yield is a yardstick that is important to enrollment managers, and perhaps to some misguided alumni fanboys. For the rest of the world, it is both insignificant and meaningless to draw conclusions about quality of education, selectivity, or desirability. </p>

<p>Again, it means NOTHING!"</p>

<p>End of thread.</p>