NC Governor Declares State of Emergency Over Gas Shortage

@Sweetgum boy how I wish the Chevy Bolt had sold better. Because it’s the perfect mix. One of our friends got a BMW with the same system and it’s perfect. Drive around town with electric but still able to take road trips.

I would not cancel any trips right now. No inside information but I don’t see how this continues past this week. Too important not to get the pipeline back and running.

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The oil company that was hacked thinks they’ll be back online by Friday, so the weekend supply should be fine.

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Let’s see how that pans out. I’ve seen way too many “we should be up and running by X” projections that are way too optimistic.

I also am suspicious about a pipeline opening Friday providing gas at stations for the weekend given

Products move through the main lines at a rate of about 3 to 5 miles per hour (4.8 to 8.0 km/h) . It generally takes from 14 to 24 days for a batch to get from Houston, Texas to the New York harbor, with 18.5 days the average time.

When a company in Atlanta orders fuel, whether it’s unleaded, diesel or jet fuel, the refiner puts it in the pipeline, and pumps keep it moving ​“about the speed of a brisk walk,”

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Problem getting gas near our home yesterday in Virginia but husband was able to get some at a Wawa this afternoon on his way back from an appointment. He waited in line for about 20 minutes but got it done. As long as people don’t hoard , hopefully this will all improve soon.

I would not panic and cancel any nonrefundable vacation plans over this. You should be able to find gas availability by checking on GasBuddy.

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Regarding the speed of products through the pipeline, when the pipeline stopped, there were presumably products in transit. Are they still there, or were they drained out wherever they were in the pipeline and sold locally?

My sister is in Asheville as well - tried to fill up yesterday to no avail. She’s on empty and stuck at home for now.

Just heard on the news that the pipeline is open again. But will take a few days for supply equilibrium to recover.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/top-us-fuel-pipeline-edges-toward-reopening-gasoline-shortages-worsen-2021-05-12/

While I appreciate the enthusiasm for electric cars, the electric grid is even more vulnerable to cyberattacks.

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I think you are confusing the Chevy Volt (plugin hybrid) with the Chevy Bolt (all electric with 200+ mile range). We have the Bolt. It’s all EV, no gas. We regularly take road trips in it. It will go to the beach or mountains on one charge. Just got back from a weekend in the mountains. We’ve taken it down to Florida, too. Did have to stop to charge, obviously, but pretty easy. This gas thing is no worry at all for us. Just put 100 miles on my car today and came home and plugged it in in the garage. Highly recommend checking it out. It’s much better than the Volt IMO. My 20 yr old has a Ford C-Max plug-in hybrid with about a 20 mile range which will get to work and back, but then the gas kicks in. Bolt is a LOT better, IME. Minimal maintenance.

All right I’ll get off my EV soap box. Just read that they opened the pipeline back up today. Should be good soon on the gas front. :crossed_fingers:

As far the electric grid being vulnerable to cyberattacks, that may be true, but you don’t have to be on the grid! You can go off grid and use solar or wind to charge up your car!!

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You are correct, I did get them mixed up.

Fuel stations require electricity to run the pumps and payment systems, so gasoline or diesel powered vehicles are also vulnerable to widespread power outages. Some fuel stations do have gasoline or diesel powered backup generators, but not all do.

If you are that concerned about the infrastructure going down, have a house with solar panels and battery storage capable of off-grid operation, plus a canola farm. Then have an electric vehicle and a diesel vehicle (using canola oil biodiesel).

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To be honest I’m not. If we lose the electric grid(s) in the US due to a cyberattack, pumping gas will not be our biggest issue. Gasoline is liquid and can be drained out of a tanker and into a vehicle in an emergency. Electricity however, look at what happened in Texas a few months ago. Solar and wind alone won’t provide enough electricity.

Also another reason to not get rid of cash all together :wink:

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Solar and wind were not the problem in Texas. That was their weird-o electricity grid system. You can definitely power your home and car off solar and wind. People do it. It’s more work for sure, but the tech exists right now to do it. It’s not pie in the sky.

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As others mentioned upthread, the declaration of emergency is what kicked in the panic buying. I was lucky and filled up my truck in the morning on the way to run errands and our other vehicles are hybrids and get great mileage.

From driving home, some stations were packed and others had a small line. It seemed possible to get gas and the pipeline is open again so hopefully things will be back to normal soon.

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I live in Texas, so not affected as far as I know, but when the news broke about the shortage in NC, I was almost out of gas. I pulled into a gas station and noticed that all of the diesel pumps were out of gas. Don’t know it that was related but I sure was hoping we didn’t have a panic incident that created a shortage.

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Most of the stations I have passed in NC have plenty of diesel so I wouldn’t think that would be related @Nrdsb4 unless it’s just social contagion in the panic-buying.

Yeah, it could have just been that particular gas station was due to refill their diesel pumps.

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I’ve been away for a few days (at graduation), but I think the headlines of “Most NC stations out of fuel”, “thousands of pumps still dry” in the last 24 hours answers the question of whether fuel “in the pipeline” would allow product to flow as soon as the pipeline was restarted.

I expect it will still be an issue through much of the week, clearing up for the most part by the weekend.

Rather than driving to SC, we decided to fly and rent a car, so we wouldn’t have to worry about gas, other than to try to refill our rental car before turning it in. Car rentals are outrageous. This will be an expensive trip.

Car rental problems are going to last a lot longer than the gas shortage problem. There’re even reports of renters with reservations being turned away at some locations.

Where are you seeing those headlines? Gas is readily available around me in NC. Don’t believe everything you read.