ND or Berkeley????

<p>You could not pay me enough money to get me to move to California. My husband interviewed for a job at Berkeley and I thanked God daily for a month that he did not get it.</p>

<p>You cannot be apolitical at Berkeley, as the school and the community is far, far left. Boulder is a bastion of liberal ideology but it can't hold a candle to Berkeley. ND is much, much more balanced in that regard.</p>

<p>I feel the same way about NYU docmom. While many people claim that the political environment at NYU is balanced, it is very obviously skewed to the far left, and dissenting opinions are sometimes quashed in the classroom. There are always incessant protests that interrupt the daily lives of students (like the unions constantly protesting around NYU). I was rejected from NYU, likely because I expressed too much of a love for moderation and balanced political thought (perhaps also because I worked for the GOP in the 2004 election). Even if I was accepted, I would choose ND anyday because of the political balance and true religious freedom.</p>

<p>First, everyone seems to be lumping "the ucs" into a conversation about TWO schools, Notre Dame and Berkeley. Berkeley is the crown jewel of the system and is held in higher esteem that all of the others (with UCLA in close second). I've never met anyone that thought Berkeley was just some crazy, liberal school. Everyone knows where Berkeley stands in this country and the rest of the word. Second, anyone that thinks Berkeley is more liberal than Stanford, Harvard, Brown, or any LAC is living in the past. Yes, Berkeley is liberal (the town more than the school), but no more than any of those other schools I just mentioned.</p>

<p>Some people will say a nd degree will get you further in life. Some will say a Berkeley degree will. No matter what, you're going to get a great academic experience at both. Something that would draw me to Notre Dame, if i was an architect major, is the year abroad in Rome program. That sounds awesome. Something that would draw me to Berkeley is the tuition,if youre in state, and the location in California. You're different from any other potential student, and probably are looking for different aspects and qualities in a school. If I were in your place, I wouldn't really consider the opinions of people I have never met on a message board. Talk to your friends, family, and teachers, see if they offer any insight; they're the ones who actually know you. And last of all, I'd just go with my gut.</p>

<p>p.s. I'd choose notre dame(bias)</p>

<p>Thanx AceRockolla. I pretty much know now what each school has to offer and stuff like that. It's just difficult because I like certain things about each school and i'm not sure which benefits i'd prefer. The two schools are very different yet I really like them both pretty much equally. I guess i'll have to do some deep soul searching this last day. haha. thanx again everyone</p>

<p>Gentleman, I would say that I think it is a crazy, liberal school. However, I recognize that it is an outSTanding school as well. It shouldn't matter because CC has said the political beliefs of a school's students isn't that crucial to him. To that, I would say that the decision should be made based on what place will present a better overall experience. Both schools are excellent in the long run.</p>

<p>irish, I actually go to Cal, so your views on what Berkeley is like don't hold a lot of weight with me.</p>