<p>Generally not good, and in some cases very sad really.</p>
<h1>4 LGBT-Unfriendly</h1>
<h1>9 Best Campus Food</h1>
<h1>12 Don't Inhale</h1>
<h1>1 Everyone Plays Intramural Sports</h1>
<h1>11 Future Rotarians and Daughters of the American Revolution</h1>
<h1>11 Jock Schools</h1>
<h1>16 College Town Not So Great</h1>
<h1>17 Most Beautiful Campus</h1>
<h1>15 School Runs Like Butter</h1>
<h1>4 Students Pack the Stadiums</h1>
<h1>8 Most Religious Students</h1>
<p>I think we are a little better than eight in religious schools and we are at the top in stadiums. I think we are better than 17 in terms of beauty of campus and I think we do have the best intramural system. I don’t really agree with the “Don’t Inhale” and we have pretty good college food. </p>
<p>You seem to be pretty negative in general about ND too - ok so the first one is not good at all, but the don’t inhale is off and some of the others are a little too low. The religious filling the stadiums, intramural sports, food, and beauty of campus (which should be top 10) are all good rankings.</p>
<p>Why should anyone care about the Princeton Review rankings?</p>
<p>Why are you sad? These category/top 20 rankings don’t vary much from their PR ranking from previous years. It is an excellent school academically, in many fields of study, and most students have had totally enriching experiences there.</p>
<p>so over 14 million people go to college and a little over 120,000 were surveyed - great study - less than 1% of the students in college.</p>
<p>NDLAWGRAD…I mean novaparent…or is it NDLAWGRAD?
What has inspired these hard feelings against ND? I’m sorry it wasn’t the right place for any of your children, but why is it your mission to cast a harsh light on ND?</p>
<p>At least ND isn’t ranked the #1 Party School or even in the top ten–^^I second laketime’s post…just what has happened for you to show such abandon to your alma mater?</p>
<p>We visited a lot a colleges with our recent ND grad when going thru the admissions process–we witnessed a lot of things first hand when visiting schools from east coast to west coast and in between, and our grad has parents and relatives that are alums from all regions. I will say again that ND was the right fit for our grad; it may not be for everyone, but we feel we got our money’s worth.</p>
<p>Please elaborate…</p>
<p>Sorry, I had to look up “novaparent” first. I don’t understand the comparison. She’s been attacking a school that she has no connection to. I do have a Notre Dame connection. </p>
<p>Notre Dame AL, you said before that your student is conservative and fit right in. So I’m not sure that your point of view is really helpful here. </p>
<p>I’ve already said why I have a problem with ND. But it’s pretty clear that opposing views are no more welcome on this website than they are on campus. So I’ll stop wasting my time. Good luck all.</p>
<p>^if I remember correctly, NDLAWGRAD believes that people have more of a sense of entitlement at ND and I have to kind of agree on some of the student population - I think some of that comes from the fact that students that get into ND really haven’t been told no before (this is obviously a generalization). However, in general, I think that most Notre Dame still have the fighting attitude that Knute Rockne had and I know many students that have that fighting attitude to them where they are never satisfied - and I think that it is this attitude that ND is looking for because I truly believe that this attitude is what made Notre Dame great in the first place and is the only attitude that will continue to make Notre Dame great (and it appears that Brian Kelly recognizes this fact as well which is good for the football team).</p>
<p>^If I am wrong about NDLAWGRAD, my point still stands as my own opinion.</p>
<p>“Generally not good?” That’s a pretty comical statement. From the rankings we learn that ND is a conservative Catholic school where there is minimal recreational drug usage, good campus food, students who are engaged and athletic, and a school that “runs like butter” on a beautiful campus. Oh yeah, Catholics don’t support gay marriage and South Bend’s a dump. None of this is ‘news’, and most of it is positive.</p>
<p>Furthemore, I think your attempts to infer things about the UG from NDLS are baseless. My experience at Harvard, and the consensus of everyone I know who has gone to a law school of any significance is that the grad community is separate from UG campus life. Oh, and did I mention that most of those things in the rankings are considered GOOD things? Unless you’re lamenting how a recent string of Irish football misfortune has negatively impacted the “Students Pack the Stadiums” category.</p>
<p>NDLAWGRAD: Opposing views aren’t welcome on campus? For someone who calls other people narrow-minded you certainly seem to have all the answers yourself; I mean why would you want to have anyone to argue with? I have several children, some of whom went to very liberal colleges and one of whom goes to Notre Dame, and I’ve met many of their friends over the years, both on campus and in my home. I realize the limitations of judgements that are based on such small samples of student populations, but nonetheless I must say that I’ve observed that the students from the liberal schools are FAR more homogeneous and predictable than the Notre Dame students I’ve met. It’s apparent that you’ve already made up your mind (that’s what prejudice is), but even you must admit that you can’t know thousands of students well enough to despise them with good reason.</p>
<p>I personally see nothing wrong with the rankings. Notre Dame is a Catholic school, and that is reflected in the rankings. It isn’t the most open-minded school, but that is part of Notre Dame being true to its Catholic identity. There are other schools that are more open-minded but lack the identity if that fits you better. You just have to decide what you want, since they seem to be mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>OP says “some cases” make him very sad. That’s plural. I’m trying to guess which ones make him sad. I’m guessing the LGBT, but what others? I’m sure he’s aware of the doctrine of the Catholic church on homosexuality. Actually, I think ND used to be #2 in that particular ranking.</p>
<p>Does the fact the students aren’t a bunch of pot-heads bother him? That the students are religious and enjoy sports and the food is very good for a college? I’m just not sure. Maybe school spirit is a terrible thing and I just never knew it. </p>
<p>My S is a rising sr. and we pretty much agree with the rankings. I do get tired of hearing S. Bend is a dump. I agree. So? The campus is insulated and one of the most gorgeous in the country. Some other top schools are in New Haven and Durham–not exactly lovely towns themselves.</p>
<p>The other thing that irks me to no end is that so-called “liberals” bash conservatism as if it’s the devil itself. My experience is that liberals have much more of a voice, and a chance to voice that voice, at a conservative school. At a liberal school, that doesn’t happen for conservatives. Who is being narrow minded?? Those schools are open-minded, <em>if</em> one is in complete agreement with them. Sounds pretty homogeneous to me…</p>
<p>This is the ND forum. Like some other posters, I’m curious as to why NDLAWGRAD continutes to hang around and bash his alma mater.</p>
<p>Don’t inhale means the students don’t like smoking. And I don’t really see an issue with lgbt-unfriendly</p>
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Could be bad, depending on what “unfriendly” means. Opposition to gay marriage? Well, that’s Catholicism. Hate? Terrible, but I don’t imagine it’s prevalent.
Sounds good.
Very good.
Seems obvious for Notre Dame. Very good if you’re into sports, at least neutral if you’re not.
Conservative? I suppose many Catholics are conservative, but a college campus full of young people almost always entails varying political views. From my experience, any sizable group of Catholics (especially young ones) has its Socialists. And even for Conservative Catholics, the Church holds Social Justice as a tenet of the faith, so everyone can come together in helping people, which is much more important than petty political disputes. I mean, if you can’t be friends with those of other political views, that’s unfortunate.
See “intramural”.
This is unfortunate. But made up for by…
Definitely good.
Cool.
See “intramural” and “jock”.
If you’re looking at Catholic schools, then this is a good thing.</p>
<p>My opinions.</p>
<p>Yeah, as a ND hopeful, Catholic and Conservative, I like everything on the list except for bad college town and most of these are why I love ND so much. So I can’t believe that these are sad for the University haha</p>
<p>Can anyone give me so info on Dorm life? When my son and I visited we loved everything but met a few girls by the Grotto who explained that there are some stigmas attached to 2 of the males dorms- Caroll and Zahm. Caroll is so isolated that they said that no one parties there and then Zahm had its own problems… My son wasn’t crazy about either. Number one, who needs a label attached to you just because you live a in particular dorm and who needs to be isolated from the rest of the community. The whole idea of going to college is to expand your horizons and break out of the high school cliches/labels etc. This was a definite downer to the trip, especially since you can’t pick which dorm you live in. How accurate were these girls?</p>
<p>There is no real “stigma” attached to either of these dorms, but each dorm on campus does end up with a bit of its own reputation/personality and each dorm does have its pros and cons. However, almost everyone ends up loving the dorm they end up in. How dorms end up with specific reputations even though they are randomly assigned, I can’t tell you. But I can tell you that it’s all in good fun and no one is going to act cliquey or judge you because you live in any particular dorm. It basically amounts to some good-natured teasing and friendly rivalry. Sort of like how people from neighboring states make fun of each other or how rival schools will compete with each other.</p>
<p>People do tend to make friends with people within their own dorms, but they also make friends from their classes and other activities. And no one is going to refuse to hang out with someone just because they live in a rival dorm. The dorm my boyfriend lived in regularly declares “war” on the dorm I was in, but we’ve still managed to work things out…</p>
<p>As for the two dorms you mentioned, sure, people will sing “Ole ole ole ole…” at the Zahmbies during pep rallies, etc, but no one is going to assume anything about someone just because they live there. And yes, Carroll IS really far away, but people do party there, although some people might be less willing to make the trek out there when it gets really cold…</p>
<p>Overall, I would say the dorm system at Notre Dame is one of its major pros. It adds another dimension to campus life and a smaller community within the larger university community. It’s not really something to worry about at all.</p>
<p>Thats good news. I’m glad to hear that coming from a current student. I, too, thought the dorm system seemed like a great environment. Now we just have to see if he gets accepted. Thanks for your imput.</p>