<p>You will get Cornell’s aid package around the same time as the decision.</p>
<p>But why, oh WHY, are you so determined to apply to a school you can’t afford???</p>
<p>Oh alright thanks a lot you’ve been a great help. Its so funny how long this thing was, but it probably won’t matter since I won’t get in lol</p>
<p>OP, you’ll get an estimated aid package around the same time as an ED acceptance. But here’s the sticky part: that aid is estimated. That’s because your parents don’t have a full set of financial numbers to submit covering the 2012 calendar year. The actual aid award is sent in the spring, after your parents update their preliminary numbers. If there’s a big change between the Profile numbers your parents fill out now versus those they submit in early 2013, the actual aid package you’ll get could be different. </p>
<p>If you find out in December that you’re accepted but Cornell is too expensive, you can still apply RD elsewhere. If you find out next April that Cornell is too expensive, you’re stuck. There will be far fewer schools still taking applications. </p>
<p>Bottom line: it’s important for your parents to fill out those forms as accurately as possible!</p>
<p>why don’t you ask admissions to change you from ED to RD?</p>
<p>I didn’t apply yet, but I don’t I have a good chance at getting in so I’m applying ED to give myself the best chance</p>
<p>It makes no sense to get in if you already know that it is not going to be financially feasible for your family. </p>
<p>Perhaps your mom should let your dad know that his submitting his paperwork does not obligate him to pay for it (especially if she is going to pick up the difference). </p>
<p>IF she is not, then you need to revisit your list; apply to schools where you stand a good chance of getting merit money and schools that are financially feasible to you and your mom.</p>
<p>It’s my dream school and I don’t know what kind of financial aid they will give me. If it’s not enough I take back my application. I’m using a fee waiver so I’m wasting any money so why apply.</p>
<p>Don’t wait until to apply to other schools. Don’t wait until you see Cornell’s aid pkg.</p>
<p>many schools have scholarship deadlines that are in Nov or Dec 1st, so if you wait, you’ll miss out on those.</p>
<p>Apply now to schools that have early scholarship deadlines.</p>
<p>Your dad’s income will be a problem and Cornell isn’t going to pay for his mistakes and shortcomings.</p>
<p>icollins, A few things: </p>
<p>You wrote, “she said she won’t fill out the fafsa later if he is on it.” You do realize only your mom fills out the FAFSA, right? It’s the Profile that requires info from each and, as mom2ck explained, each parent fills out a different from. </p>
<p>Are you instate for Cornell? And are you applying to one of the public parts? The difference in cost is substantial. </p>
<p>Next, I would urge you to go ahead and apply to Cornell. If each of your parents makes $55K, you might get substantial financial aid. Whether or not it’s enough for you to swing Cornell, I don’t know, but it’s worth a shot. It is NOT however worth a shot to go ED because it’s generally believed that ED might get the worst aid. See, they know they’ve got you with ED so there’s no incentive to be generous and you’ve closed off the possibility that you will be able to go back to them in April and say, “I really, really want to go to Cornell but I got this great aid package from Columbia and was wondering if you could help make up some of the difference.” </p>
<p>As far as ED advantage… It’s really overrated at the very competitive schools. One of my kids insisted on applying ED to a top lac and didn’t get in. I then urged the same kid to apply to one of the many other lacs ED II and kid didn’t. Instead, kid applied to a whole bunch of highly-ranked lacs regular decision. In the end, kid got into ALL of them. The ranking between the ED school and the highest-ranked non ED school to which my kid applied was within 3-4 schools, both in the top 10. In other words, the school that wasn’t going to admit didn’t suddenly admit because of ED and the schools that were did anyway. An ED contract couldn’t propel my kid into a school that was just 3% more selective. (The one kid from the high school who did get in ED the next year-- with nearly identical grades and scores-- was a female soccer recruit. So I do think that in some cases-- recruited athlete, legacy in a school that only honors legacy with ED-- ED makes sense, but not in general.)</p>
<p>To the OP…you will NOT get your financial aid package from Cornell unless both of your parents complete the Profile by Cornell’s priority deadline. I don’t know when that date is for Cornell but for many schools it is by November 15. It can take up to two weeks for the Profile to be processed. I suggest that IF you really do expect a financial aid package shortly after your possible acceptance, that your parents get cracking on getting the Profile done!</p>
<p>You should definitely add some FAFSA only schools or Profile schools that don’t require the non-custodial parent form.</p>
<p>You might also put your mom and dad’s income into Cornell’s financial aid calculator and see what it says.</p>
<p>[Financial</a> Aid Calculator | Financial Aid](<a href=“http://www.finaid.cornell.edu/cost-attend/financial-aid-estimator]Financial”>Financial Aid Calculator | Financial Aid)</p>
<p>OK I have a update to this post. My mom changed her position she fine with my dad filling out the noncustodial parent CSS profile, but my dad isn’t. So if he refuses to fill it out what happens? I’m positive he won’t fill it out and it is due tomorrow the 5th so what happens. Do I just let them know my dad refuses to fill it out?</p>
<p>If your colleges require the NCP Profile, and they do not receive it, they will NOT process your request for institutional aid. By simply refusing to fill out the form, your dad is simply saying to the colleges “we don’t want your institutional aid”.</p>
<p>So am I screwed for FA if he doesn’t fill it out since I can’t make him?</p>
<p>Apply to FAFSA only schools. They do not require the NCP info. OR apply to Profile schools that do not require the NCP Profile. There are those too.</p>
<p>Yea I know, but I already sent in my application to Cornell, my mom’s CSS form and her tax returns…</p>
<p>Is this an ED application? If so, you will NOT receive an estimated financial aid award if you are accepted. Your financial aid application is incomplete if they require the NCP Profile. </p>
<p>This is what <em>I</em> believe will happen. If you want an answer from
Cornell, call their financial aid office on Monday. Ask them “what happens if my non-custodial parent does not complete the Profile?”. They will tell you what will happen.</p>
<p>Like I said, my guess is they will not process your request for need based aid because your application is incomplete…but do ask Cornell.</p>
<p>If he won’t do it then I believe they won’t consider you for aid beyond federal grants/loans. But by all means call.</p>
<p>You might make that clear to your dad, if he doesn’t do it you aren’t going, period.</p>
<p>And DO add some FAFSA only schools to you app list. Some schools require very little in terms of the app - some no essay (or just send the one you already wrote), no LOR, only need transcript if admitted based on self reported grades, no app fee, that kind of thing.</p>
<p>In addition to FAFSA only schools, this is a list of Profile schools. The ones with “no” in the noncustodial column don’t require the NCP form (but be aware that some have their own form for that): <a href=“CSS Profile – CSS Profile | College Board”>CSS Profile – CSS Profile | College Board;
<p>Thanks a lot, but on the CSS profile it mentioned not having to fill out ncp. If you don’t have contact with ncp. So is it wrong if I say that because I have contact with him, but he refuses to fill it out, so I might as well not have contact with him.</p>
<p>Sent from my DROID3 using CC</p>
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This would nullify any claim that you do not have contact with him.</p>
<p>Have you tried explaining to him that filling out the form in no way means he has to contribute any money to you for college? Have you tried offering to pay the fee for submitting the Profile? Also, try really hard not to approach him in a “mad” way - even if you have every right to be mad. You need his cooperation.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>