<p>I'm planning on majoring in International Relations/Political Science with a minor/double major/concentration in Foreign Language or International Studies. I want to go into foreign service and potentially work in the UN. My dad wants me to consider majoring or double majoring in International Business so I won't have to depend on a government for a job. So I'm applying to 5 schools that offer Business along with IR/PoliSci: Furman, Columbia, USCarolina, and USCalifornia.
I'm looking for schools to cut from the list that don't offer business at all. I'm set on American, Georgetown, Williams and the joint program between William and Mary and St. Andrews. I'm trying to pick 2 schools from the following:
George Washington, Yale, Stanford, Tufts and Brown, to apply to a total of 11 schools.</p>
<p>I'm a female URM.
SAT: 2030 ACT: 33
APs: US History - 5, Euro - 5, Bio - 4 (I'm taking AP Calc AB/BC, AP Lit and Lang this year)
I'm the VP of Student Ambassadors, and VP of Finance of FBLA which I've been really involved in since 10 grade. I'm also in Model UN, Walk 4 Water and run Track. I'm an A student except for math and the occasional B in English.
Oh, and I need considerable financial aid. Like, major financial aid, so I'm going to apply to some schools through Questbridge Regular Decision. I also want a school with a good study abroad program.</p>
<p>I like George Washington because it’s in DC (my favorite city) and I like their program, but I like American’s campus better (although I havn’t been to the Mount Vernon campus yet)
I really like Yale. My dad really likes Stanford. Tufts is known for its great IR program. And I kinda like Brown.
I guess Brown can go, but they have a good program too, soo I’m stuck.</p>
<p>I think speaking from a purely statistical stand point GW would be a good choice. Hmm is there a particular reason you don’t like Brown? When I was reading this post one of the first schools to pop into my head was Brown. Anyway that’s a real tough list to narrow because you can never go wrong with stanford and yale (well you can but I hope you know what I mean) idk too much about tufts… anyway good luck!</p>
<p>You realize that Stanford, Brown and Yale don’t offer business majors, right? They have economics. (Don’t know about the others - you need to look.)</p>
<p>If financial aid is a big concern, please re-think applying to the W&M /St. Andrews program. My son’s academic interests are quite similiar to yours and he was very intrigued by the William & Mary /St. Andrews program. He applied last year and got in. However, when the financial aid package came through it was just not doable AT ALL. The St. Andrews portion of the program had not been worked out well through William and Mary and students essentially receive no U.S. financial aid for those 2 years they are in Scotland and there were precious few scholarships. Of course, the falling rate of the dollar to the GBP was also a huge factor when considering living/travel expenses. </p>
<p>When comparing the FA packages, it was going to cost him way more to go St. Andrews (nearly $45,000) than to Georgetown where he was accepted into the SFS. You can get private loans for the $45,000 and there are limited unsubsidized student loans for this sort of study abroad. </p>
<p>Check these out before you decide to apply to this particular program.<br>
[Undergraduate</a> cost of attendance | Current Students | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/Internationalstudents/ugcoa/]Undergraduate”>Undergraduate cost of attendance | Current Students | University of St Andrews)
[Money</a> Matters | Current Students | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/]Money”>Money matters | Current Students | University of St Andrews)</p>
<p>If you are really serious about this program, I would encourage you to call W&M Admissions and ask some very poignant questions about the financial realities of the St. Andrews program. I wish we’d done that before my son applied.</p>
<p>If financial aid is a big concern, please re-think applying to the W&M /St. Andrews program. My son’s academic interests are quite similiar to yours and he was very intrigued by the William & Mary /St. Andrews program. He applied last year and got in. However, when the financial aid package came through it was just not doable AT ALL. The St. Andrews portion of the program had not been worked out well through William and Mary and students essentially receive no U.S. financial aid for those 2 years they are in Scotland and there were precious few scholarships. Of course, the falling rate of the dollar to the GBP was also a huge factor when considering living/travel expenses. </p>
<p>When comparing the FA packages, it was going to cost him way more to go St. Andrews (nearly $45,000) than to Georgetown where he was accepted into the SFS. You can get private loans for the $45,000 and there are limited unsubsidized student loans for this sort of study abroad. </p>
<p>Check these out before you decide to apply to this particular program.<br>
[Undergraduate</a> cost of attendance | Current Students | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/Internationalstudents/ugcoa/]Undergraduate”>Undergraduate cost of attendance | Current Students | University of St Andrews)
[Money</a> Matters | Current Students | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/]Money”>Money matters | Current Students | University of St Andrews)</p>
<p>If you are really serious about this program, I would encourage you to call W&M Admissions and ask some very poignant questions about the financial realities of the St. Andrews program. I wish we’d done that before my son applied.</p>
<p>@kosherasian: Not really, other than the open curriculum. I would kind of prefer structure, but if the program is good it’s not nonnegotiable. </p>
<p>@M’s Mom: I do. I’m already applying to 5 schools that offer business. These are the schools without business programs that I’m trying to narrow down.</p>
<p>@Tejana13: Really? That’s alarming. I was really interested in St. Andrews but I knew we couldn’t afford it, so this was my chance to attend. Oh, this is so disappointing.</p>
<p>Hoping, I think you should just go with your list not worry about narrowing until you get offers. Can’t see how applying to 11 is much different from 13 as you’ll have all the preparation done any way.</p>
<p>Last thing you need is another choice, but Johns Hopkins sure seems like a good fit. If I were to drop any one I’d say USC. </p>
<p>Williams does seem to be the odd-man-out in your list, but since my son is a graduate I’m quite prejudiced and hope you apply. :)</p>
<p>I understand the rationale of getting a business undergrad degree, but I don’t think it’s essential. An economics degree from a top school – plus some solid work/internship experience along the way – will get you started. Whether you go into business or the foreign service, you will get a graduate degree sooner or later so you should use your undergraduate years to get the best educational experience you can.</p>
<p>@I actually decided not to apply to Brown, Yale and WM/St.A
I think I’d prefer some structure over Brown’s open curriculum. Yale isn’t near a major cities, and WM/St.A would be too expensive. I considered Johns Hopkins, twice actually :), and decided against it twice for reasons I can’t currently remember, but thanks for the input. </p>
<p>Which USC? I really like USCalifornia’s program, and the other USC is in-state with guaranteed scholarships along with a top-rated international business program.</p>
<p>I applied to Window on Williams, so if I get accepted, I’ll go and see how it feels. If not, its up in the air :/</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice. It will definitely help when choosing between offers.</p>
<p>I was referring to the one in California. Seems out of place in the context of your other choices/interests. Leave South Carolina on the list.</p>
<p>I’m not plugging for Yale but it’s actually very urban, moreso than Stanford for that matter. </p>
<p>You seem to have some conflicting criteria, which is okay as you don’t always get everything on your wish list. For that reason, I’d not worry about having a wider rather than a more edited list.</p>
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<p>Honestly, you should look at a map. Yale is on a direct train line to NYC, one of the most significant cities in the world, 1 hr at most. In addition, New Haven is urban. Yale is a big reach for you, which may be a reason to drop it, but the location is not.</p>
<p>And you are keeping Williams on your list? I love Williams, a great school, an idyllic campus, but it is practically the definition of “middle of nowhere.”</p>
<p>@momrath: How so? There IR/Global Business degree is exactly what I’m looking for. What do you mean by conflicting criteria?
@consolation: Actually, I did look at a map. I’m sorry, I’ve never been to either of these places, so I can’t really tell how urban they are other than google maps, where Yale is in CT, not even in the same state as NY and Stanford is between San Jose and San Fran. I actually really like Yale and it was hard for me to cut it, but my dad really likes Stanford and I thought it would have the best access to a large city. Both Yale and Stanford are reaches for me, so that wouldn’t be a very good reason for me to drop it. If I don’t apply, I’ll never have the chance. Sorry if I sound a bit snarky.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the input yall</p>
<p>Okay, USC IR/Business degree is interesting. Working internationally for a mulitnational corporation is quite different from a career in the foreign service or with an internatioal NGO. Of course, you don’t need to choose one or the other right now, but, in my opinion you may be limiting your options if you focus on an undergraduate business degree.</p>
<p>I’m still not sure why you feel you need to limit the number of applications. When you’re applying to very selective schools and need aid, it’s good to go wide. If application fees are an issue, ask for waivers.</p>
<p>^ I agree with momrath about not limiting your reach schools. My son received significantly more FA from his need only, top reach schools than in-state schools (which made it far more economical to attend Gtown). </p>
<p>Have you considered UPenn’s Huntsman Program? The campus is located in downtown Philly(not the greatest location but not too bad either). It seems to fit your academic interests of IR/Business. It is a dual BA program, very selective but might be worth a look to see how you match up.
[The</a> Huntsman Program in International Studies and Business](<a href=“http://huntsman.upenn.edu/page/about.html]The”>http://huntsman.upenn.edu/page/about.html)</p>
<p>Sorry about being the bearer of bad news regarding the W&M/St. Andrews Program. Although it presented an interesting opportunity to live abroad, please remember you can always do a semester or year abroad at another school (that is providing a nice FA package).</p>