Need some feedback about SAT scores

<p>Have you calculated her UC GPA yet? It’ll be the GPA for academic classes in 10/11 grade with the 5 pt scale used for a max of 8 AP/Honors classes (the ones UC recognizes).</p>

<p>Also, give this website a perusal - [University</a> of California - Admissions - The University of California offers one of the broadest ranges of study of any institution of higher learning in the world, all at an affordable price.](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergraduate.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergraduate.html)</p>

<p>ellemenope’s scatterplots are telling.</p>

<p>Some cal states close to you are - SF State, San Jose State, Sonoma State.</p>

<p>Cost is quite a bit lower when living at home and commuting but they also miss out somewhat on the ‘college experience’. Some students stay on campus the first year and then commute after that as a compromise.</p>

<p>uc-dad, thanks …I don’t have all the transcripts. I only have the one for 11 grade, so i have to wait until Monday to call the school.</p>

<p>Since your D is going to a small super competitive private high school, you should be working with a counselor from that school. I mean, that is what people pay for when they send their kids to schools like these. </p>

<p>My kid goes to a middling suburban public SoCal high school, and she got called into the counselor’s office, given an unofficial transcript of her 9-11 grades, and had a talk about what colleges looked feasible and interesting.</p>

<p>Counselors will know of the local privates that are good bets for your D.</p>

<p>ellemenope, it’s true. The college counselor is great, but i’m more conservative. The college counselor gives me names of colleges that seems really good- C. Mellon, Syracuse, Rice and the like. She thinks D has a great chances to be accepted and get merit aid. I rather be more conservative. I don’t know maybe the D’s HS is highly respected among those colleges and B/B+ is more like an A compared to other HS. Besides D’s EC are outstanding. So, I believe it until I have an acceptance letter and a merit aid offer on my hand.</p>

<p>MomOfaTeen, did you make a mistake in your initial post? You said your daughter’s scores would be something like 1300/1600 or 1770/2400. So she’s expecting something like 650 V, 650 M (solid scores) and 470 Writing? That doesn’t sound right. I’m sure the Writing number is a typo.</p>

<p>Momofteen…</p>

<p>What if she goes to SLO for at least 2 years… and then, if she wants to, she can transfer to UCBerkeley. Then she’ll go to a good school her first two years (but isn’t too expensive), and then she can live at home for her last two years while she is at Berkeley. Or, she can do all 4 years at SLO? SLO is a very good school and reasonably priced.</p>

<p>Let me add another strong encouragement for her to take the ACT.</p>

<p>Mom:</p>

<p>The UCs weight gpa much higher than test scores. Using statfinder, the data show that Cal accepted 60 students with a gpa of 3.2-3.4 uw and test scores of 1500-1800, for 3.7% admissions rate. But, I would surmise that nearly everyone of those kids had a hook (athlete) or tip factor (low-no income, first gen to college), or really, really unique ECs and essays. </p>

<p>btw: the next cohort of kids (1800-2100 test scores) with the same gpa had a lower admission rate of 3.3%, so a boost in test scores really won’t help much for Cal, unless she can clear the 2100+ threshold (5% admission rate with that gpa).</p>

<p>JL50ish:
From everything I’ve read it’s easier to transfer from a CC to a UC than from a CalState to a UC.</p>

<p>Besides, once she starts at a particular 4 year school she may be better off, and more inclined, to complete her UG at that 4 year school rather than transferring since by then she’ll be somewhat established socially with friends, be in tune with the methods of the particular college, perhaps be involved in certain campus activities, jobs, research, etc.</p>

<p>Besides more - CalPoly SLO is a well respected school so other than the switch to commuting to save money I’m not sure there’s much to be gained from transferring to UCB after 2 years even if the transfer was to be permitted.</p>

<p>My family has used these tips to improve test scores. My 17 year old son recently used these strategies to help his best friend improve his scores so that the friend could be in my son’s honors dorm next year. The system worked so well that the friend improved his ACT score from a 25 to a 31 (he was only “aiming” for a 28 to qualify for honors). The friend’s score improved so much, that now he qualifies for a full-tuition scholarship (his parents are very grateful - they never went to college!)</p>

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<p>Plan on taking both the SAT and the ACT tests because some students score higher on one type than the other. If the school that you are applying to only considers the Math and CR, then those two scores are what you need to be comparing to the ACT equivalent score. For example, one of my kid’s Math + CR = 1510. Colleges consider that to be a higher score than his ACT 33. A 1510 is the equivalent of an ACT 34. However, some kids score higher on the ACT. It will all depend on each student’s individual strengths and weaknesses.</p>

<p>Also, if the schools on your “application list” only consider Math and CR for the SAT, don’t spend too much time practicing the Writing section (you don’t want to do badly in that section, but you don’t need to really “knock yourself out” studying for it, either.)</p>

<p>To prepare for the PSAT/SAT & ACT, buy the SAT practice book that is put out by College Board (the company that makes the SAT), and the ACT practice put out by the ACT company – both are sold online and at bookstores. Later, you can buy other companies practice books later if you like.</p>

<p>Then, without timing yourself (and stressing out), sit down and do a section. Anytime that you decide to guess an answer, circle that number. Then when you’re done with that one section, look at the answer key and look at the section that explains why the correct answer was correct. Also, if any of your “guessed” answers were correct, read why they were correct (even though you guessed correctly, you need to learn WHY that guess was the correct or best answer.)</p>

<p>Once you’ve practiced a few sections, then you can begin timing yourself to teach yourself how to “pace yourself.”</p>

<p>Now, whenever you have a few spare minutes (while waiting for someone, while in the car, whenever), look thru the math sections for questions or equations that are put forth in an unfamiliar way. Do those problems. The more that you do problems that are “set up” or worded differently than what you are “used to,” the less time you’ll waste during an actual test trying to figure out what the question is really asking (that can be a big “waste of time” to those who don’t “test well.” ). You may want to purchase some additional SAT practice books so that you can expose yourself to the different ways math questions are presented.</p>

<p>Study common SAT vocab words. There are lists (found on internet and in the practice books) of common words and definitions found on SAT/PSAT exams. Knowing more words will prevent you from losing “easy points” simply because there was a word in a passage or question that you didn’t understand. Keep those SAT vocab lists in areas that you will frequently review them – by your bedside, at your desk, in your school binder, in the car, - anywhere that you might have time to review them.</p>

<p>Tip for “slow readers”: while reading passages, do not silently “pronounce” each word in your mind (that is a big waste of time). To improve your reading, read with your finger gliding under the words forcing you to move across the page. “Faster readers” do not “form” each word in their heads as they read - Slower readers do that (I had to cure one of my kids from doing that - it is called sub-vocalization.)</p>

<p>Learn about “idioms.” Students often miss questions because they aren’t able to identify improper word usage because improper word usage has seeped into our speaking language.
There are usually a few Writing section questions that test proper use of vocabulary, or usage. For example, what’s wrong with the following sentence?</p>

<p>The film had a powerful affect on me.</p>

<p>Affect is not the word you need; effect is correct. Affect as a noun means “emotion” or “mood”; effect as a noun means “an outcome or result.” Affect as a verb means “to influence,” whereas effect as a verb means “to cause to occur.” A different example: noisome means “offensive smelling,” not noisy.
• Incorrect She prefers skiing over snowboarding.
• Correct She prefers skiing to snowboarding.
• Incorrect I don’t have a favorable opinion toward Beethoven’s music.
• Correct I don’t have a favorable opinion of Beethoven’s music.
Now, while reading passages, do not silently “read” each word in your mind (that is a big waste of time). To improve your reading, read with your finger gliding under the words forcing you to move across the page. “Faster readers” do not “form” each word in their heads as they read - Slower readers do that (I had to cure one of my kids from doing that - it is called sub-vocalization.)</p>

<p>Don’t forget… the rule is… you must pick the answer that is the “best” answer. There may be two “correct” answers, but only one of them is the “best answer.” For instance, one question might ask you to pick which best describes the mood of someone who is “elated.” One choice may be “in a good mood.” Another choice may be “in an ecstatic mood.” Even though both answers are technically “correct,” the second answer is the “best answer.” </p>

<p>Also, if you go to collegeboard.com, then you can have the SAT question of the day sent to you by email every day. All you do is open the email, answer the question and it will tell you if your answer is right or wrong, then it will tell you why the correct answer is the correct and best answer.</p>

<p>As I think of more of the tips that we use, I’ll add them. I have them on a different computer. The above is just “off the top of my head.” Please excuse any typo’s, etc. - I just quickly put the above together from memory (except I "borrowed " the idiom part from a website.)</p>

<p>JL50ish, thanks so much for taking the time to write the tips to improve scores. I’ll copy and past and e-mail them to my D. She still has another chance for the December SAT test. Again, thanks so much.</p>

<p>bluebayou, thanks for the letting me know about the gpa vs. test scores. It’s really interesting to learn about these numbers.</p>

<p>UCSD >>> JL50ish:
From everything I’ve read it’s easier to transfer from a CC to a UC than from a CalState to a UC.</p>

<p>Besides, once she starts at a particular 4 year school she may be better off, and more inclined, to complete her UG at that 4 year school rather than transferring since by then she’ll be somewhat established socially with friends, be in tune with the methods of the particular college, perhaps be involved in certain campus activities, jobs, research, etc.</p>

<p>Besides more - CalPoly SLO is a well respected school so other than the switch to commuting to save money I’m not sure there’s much to be gained from transferring to UCB after 2 years even if the transfer was to be permitted. <<<<</p>

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<p>I agree with you that going to SLO is a very fine and respected choice for her. I agree that she may want to stay there (and that would be just great!). The transfer option was only put forth because the OP seemed to really want her kid to go to Berkeley (which at this point, she would not likely be accepted.)</p>

<p>I really doubt that it is harder to transfer to a UC from SLO, than from a CC. My cousins all transferred from Cal State Fullerton to UCLA - no problem. UC’s have to look more fondly at a CalState transfer than a cc transfer, simply out of assumption that a CalState is a better school.</p>

<p>JL50ish and ucsd-ucla-dad, thanks for the ideas about transfering. Could be another option for the future. At this point, I don’t thing my D would want to go to a CC so the only option for her would be to transfer from Calpoly to a UC. Thanks for your ideas!</p>