<p>Son was in communication with NESCAC coach last night , transcripts were given over a month ago . He said within 3 weeks we look to have this moving. His final text message was:</p>
<p>We like you alot . We want to be very careful with the process so that to the best of our ability when we invite you up we are commited to offering you . We are just getting in that process now.</p>
<p>Can anyone comment on this ? </p>
<p>Sounds like they are still trying to figure out where your son falls on their list – ie, do they use a slot on him or not. Can’t speak directly to football, but in my DD’ sport a lot of musical chairs goes on as the NESCAC’s wait to see which of their most highly prized recruits go Ivy or other high academic D-1. Hang in there, but if you are at risk of losing a spot at another school, let this coach know that and see what happens. Sometimes that lights a fire under them, but it may not. Good luck.</p>
<p>Sound advice above. The “when we invite you we are committed to offering you” makes me scratch my head a bit…Was the conversation about scheduling an overnight? From our experience with D3/NESCAC recruiting, it seems coach-speak is often very precisely ambiguous. Agree with Heights…there is a whole lot of hurry up and wait as the NESCACs sit and spin over who is going to and not going to go Ivy.</p>
<p>I scratched my head as well. It appears from the text messages he was catching up with son. He said within 3 weeks we want to wrap this up and then his last message is what i wrote above . I believe the within 3 weeks he wants to get him up there for an official and be able to make an offer , thats the only way i read it but yes strangely written. We had not heard from him in over a month since we supplied transcripts to him , so i thought he wrote son off. I guess they are very busy as well with the season . Will see</p>
<p>Frustrating for you but I get that coach has got to equivocate. GL</p>
<p>The coach above who said 3 weeks never got back to my son , amazing how these guys operate . He has since recieved some other offers from high d3 schools , just scratch my head what some of these coaches say and do. The other thing is nescac are still calling however the application date is January 1 for these schools , don’t see how they can make that work with a visit etc.</p>
<p>Similar to your son, harrycarsen. Nescac football coach called end of October to small talk, never gave a definitive answer to the summer preread. Son emailed him along with others to ask their level of interest and support, along with new act/sat scores a few days before ed1 deadline. No response from most of the nescacs, just high academic d3s outside of nescac. Son went ED1 to a non-nescac. Coach who failed to respond email two days ago to tell son that he never got test scores from son, and to forward them ASAP. Guess they didn’t get the guys higher up on their list, so our sons are next in line, that’s all. I just wish they would say that though. They ask for integrity from these kids but don’t reciprocate.</p>
<p>We are in similar position with S. Only IVY he applied to has totally dropped communication. Patriot League school came in late, just a couple of weeks ago, talking about scholarship, then it’s been crickets for over a week after S called, left message, to follow up. It seems to me they, even IVY, will string the bottom-of-the-list kids along with their silence and see what holes they end up with. Is this a correct assumption? In the meantime, our College Plan B is regular, non-athletic student, RD apps. This is a grueling process. I have a good, not top, student, and an equally good, not top, athlete. I guess being good isn’t all that. The athletic-student/student-athlete sliding scale is a tough measure. </p>
<p>" It seems to me they, even IVY, will string the bottom-of-the-list kids along with their silence and see what holes they end up with. Is this a correct assumption?"</p>
<p>It sure seems that way at times. But in the coach’s defense - you have to remember there are hundreds of potential recruits he’s dealing with. So I wouldn’t say it’s really ‘stringing kids along with silence’ - rather he just doesn’t know how things are going to end up until he sees who is committing where. The ‘musical chairs’ analogy is a good one, but picture a thousand kids playing and they’re all sitting down at different times. </p>
<p>One difference, I think, is that we tell our kids to contact the other coaches that recruited them once they have made their decision. Coaches, on the other hand, tend not to call the kids that are left at the altar to let them know they’re no longer interested. One reason, I suppose, is that a coach doesn’t know for certain how secure his recruits are until admission decisions are released. The other is the sheer volume of recruits he’s dealing with. Similar to people interviewing for jobs that never hear a ‘thank you, but we hired someone else’</p>
<p>As for the athletic-student/student-athlete sliding scale being tough to gauge - it’s true that a very strong athlete may be able to get by with a slightly weaker academic profile at the top academic schools, but the inverse is rarely true. In other words, very strong academics doesn’t generally allow a weaker athlete to be recruited. There are some exceptions, of course - a coach may find he needs to boost the team academic index, for example. But if the athletic chops aren’t quite at the caliber the coach needs, you can’t compensate for that with high test scores.</p>
<p>Difficult times to be sure - with so much taking place behind the scenes that we just aren’t privy to.</p>
<p>Thanks, varska. It seems the bottom line is that we just have to be patient…either to wait on a definitive level of interest and (offer of) admission, or accept the silence that will become its own answer. It is very much an HR issue, of course, but there is so much at stake! Will my S play football for college, or will he leave athletics behind? Those are the 2 tracks we are facing. It’s like being at a middle school dance, waiting for someone to ask. Crazy. </p>
<p>Ncfbmom, if your son is ivy/patriot level talent, why not consider d3 upper academic tier schools? I’m sure they’d love to have him. My son has gotten more recruiting action this month than all of this year to date. D3s are finding out which ivy/patriot guys actually got in and then moving down the list. Our S gets his admissions decision dropped in the mail tomorrow.</p>
<p>If the Ivy and/or Patriot coaches decide to not offer, even if he does get admitted, how will we know he was or was not admitted? Also,the northeast D3 schools are a different academic caliber than those in our state (NC), so we would have to get on their radar. </p>
<p>@ncfbmom - If there is no admission support from the coaches at the Ivy schools, you’ll find out whether he is accepted the same way as everyone else - around April 1. </p>
<p>Even with early application? 9/15 is when he applied. </p>
<p>Since ED notification date has either passed or is taking place in the next couple of days - the RD date is around 4/1 (ivy)</p>