<p>@ So Authentic, that article that Trackbabi posted is a (lame) satire not actually written by Jian Li.</p>
<p>@ Tyler09, no, it's really not. I don't think that anyone is arguing that admissions goes out to discriminate against Asians, but if more URMs are admitted, it automatically means less spots available for Asians, whether it's giving a boost for URMs or taking away from Asians, the result is essentially the same. It may not be intentional, but giving an advantage to one group means the other group is disadvantaged.</p>
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Ok, taken from the article Trackbabi posted!</p>
<p>We cook greasy food, wash your clothes and let you copy our homework. Brown people are catching up, too but not before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Plus, two Princeton professors showed that racial preferences for black people and Hispanics hurt admission opportunities for me. I mean, Asians in general. The Great Wall Street Journal support my case. What more you want?</p>
<p>^^^Extremely Pompous!! I have never heard such a jealous and arrogant statement in my life. Though Princeton does not offer transfers but why bother going through all of that?
<p>@charisma maybe to you, but your view of the discrimination is simply the effect of the demands of more urms. but i think the actual discrimination people are talking about is when colleges "cap" asian enrollment, which i dont think is true, and if it is is completely wrong and inexcusable.</p>
<p>I don't find the pomposity of the article as offensive as the fact that it's written in stilted writing meant to reflect the stereotypical Asian accent. And it isn't really used to be funny; it's used to attack Li and Asians in general by throwing stereotypes off the wall under the guise of satire.</p>
<p>Whatever. I'll challenge the writer to a duel. What do you think, pistols or swords?</p>
<p>"And it isn't really used to be funny; it's used to attack Li and Asians in general by throwing stereotypes off the wall under the guise of satire."</p>
<p>-I agree. While I believe strongly in journalistic freedom and personal expression, such an article is nothing more than hurtful racist filth.</p>
<p>There was an article in a very liberal paper (maybe the ny times) that actually proved the OP's post wrong.. saying how minorities do do worse in college... I like to stay indifferent about this stuff.. i just saw it today in a stack of old papers and read it.</p>
<p>well for the record I am a minority, Black, at Cornell, an Ivy, and top university, globally, and I am excelling. I'm one the Dean's List in the College of Arts and Sciences. So there some proof to refute that study. :)</p>
<p>The study might be correct, but you have to look beyond the basic number too. For example, in a race between two groups of horses A and B, but if group A was allowed a five-second headstart everytime, then of course group A will do better. Students who tend to do better are those who are from a higher income bracket and who were prep years in advance. And of course, they tend to be caucasian. Most URM are first-generation college students, I am one (but not an URM), and it can be an unnerving experience with little or no guidance.</p>
<p>"well for the record I am a minority, Black, at Cornell, an Ivy, and top university, globally, and I am excelling. I'm one the Dean's List in the College of Arts and Sciences. So there some proof to refute that study."</p>
<p>Very sweet, trackbabi ;). You actually Make me jelaous being a Nigerian. :(</p>
<p>"For example, in a race between two groups of horses A and B, but if group A was allowed a five-second headstart everytime, then of course group A will do better. Students who tend to do better are those who are from a higher income bracket and who were prep years in advance."</p>
<p>This is where financial aid application comes into play. Adcoms will see those who were less fortunate to afford things like SAT preps through the financial aid application.</p>
<p>hahaa Trackbabi......One time I received a D average in thrid grade, I remember almost urinating on myself over the thought of having to bring home the report card to my mom. My mom is goddess of great education for a child LMAO. Good grades are a must in Nigerian homes.!</p>
<p>Wait, so how did it help you get into Cornell? The fact that you are a URM Nigerian or the fact that your parents are strict so therefore they made sure your grades were good?</p>
<p>I'd say that my grades were good. I had enough opportunities from the encouragement from my parents to excel. Going to college was not an option. We weren't rich, actually we were poor when I was young, my parents having just immigrated. But opportunity doesn't always come in the form of money but also family support which a lot of American children do not have.</p>
<p>So Authentic:” LMFAOOO.....sorry spidey but I had to laugh!”
Glad you did.</p>
<p>Hotpiece: Yup – that was the movie I was referring to.</p>
<p>Hotpiece: “Not that I'm condoning the use of the word, but I think the idea is that black people are reclaiming it, making it acceptable to say to each other. And although this is going to sound extremely silly, there really is a difference between the way black people say it to each other and the way other people say it as a racial slur.”…” So Authentic, I qualified what I meant by "reclaim." Black people now use it in a positive way to each other, thus (in the user's mind) taking away it's original power.”</p>
<p>So Authentic: “hotpiece, you can't possibly reclaim a word YOU NEVER owned. Blacks (if im not mistaken) never owned or started that word. It was started (if I'm not mistaken) by caucasians or slave owners that were in authority. Therefore, it will be extremely silly to keep the same word (that was used to belittle your people) into your daily base vocabulary. Thats why so many people condone it. Besides, you ever noticed how often the N word is used with a "A" at the end rather than the regular "ER" at the end”</p>
<p>Tyler: ” regarding the "n" word. Its not just the difference in pronunciation, its the context in which a black person or a white person would say it. Many people wonder "why is it ok when black people say the n word but not ok if i say it!?" and to find the answer you (as someone who isn't a black person) have to ask yourself, "what motive would i possibly have to say it?". Your either going to be using it as a slur, and insult, making fun of black people who say it, there is no positive reason for you to say it, so why would you want to?”</p>
<p>I think you guys are mentioning the two most obvious uses of the N word – a racist slur by members of another race and in the context of reclaiming something among African Americans. I have recently seen a third usage. Young non-African Americans are assimilating bits of African American culture and claiming it for themselves. If you look on myspace, you can see poses and hand gestures which come from certain subgroups within the African American community used by other races. And it isn’t anything derogatory – it is a sincere expression of coolness. I have heard Caucasian cheerleader types say or write things among dear friends like “You can kiss my Black arse” (of course they use the real word instead of arse), or calling each other “my N” with the “a” at the end instead of the -er. Unheard of in my generation (really shocking to me). Again, for them it’s apparently a coolness thing, and if it says anything about race relations, it’s sort of them saying “We are so beyond all of that racist stuff. We befriend, date and marry members of different races with no issues. We use each other’s expressions. We are a much freer generation”. Again – more edginess. There is a bit of claiming (versus reclaiming) here, as kids start crossing boundaries and start borrowing – with good intentions – pieces of another culture.</p>
<p>Totally agree trackbabi and So Authentic Nigerian parents are crazy about education. I will never foget the day i brought home a D in general music in seventh grade...</p>
<p>"I'd say that my grades were good. I had enough opportunities from the encouragement from my parents to excel. Going to college was not an option. We weren't rich, actually we were poor when I was young, my parents having just immigrated. But opportunity doesn't always come in the form of money but also family support which a lot of American children do not have."</p>
<p>Trackbabi, I respect that alot but if you're talking about american children being the caucasians (because rememeber America is predominately caucasian) then they actually do have opportunities. A lot of them actually can afford further educational assistance in addition to the one they are already receiving.</p>