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<li> University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8 </li>
<li> Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4.6 </li>
<li> University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas) * 4.5
University of MichiganAnn Arbor * 4.5 </li>
<li> New York University (Stern) 4.3
U. of North CarolinaChapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * 4.3
University of TexasAustin (McCombs) * 4.3 </li>
<li> Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.2 </li>
<li> Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) 4.1
University of Virginia (McIntire) * 4.1 </li>
<li> Cornell University (NY) 4.0
Indiana UniversityBloomington (Kelley) * 4.0 </li>
<li> Emory University (Goizueta) (GA) 3.9
U. of IllinoisUrbana-Champaign * 3.9
Univ. of MinnesotaTwin Cities (Carlson) * 3.9
Univ. of WisconsinMadison * 3.9
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) 3.9 </li>
<li> Ohio State UniversityColumbus (Fisher) * 3.8
Pennsylvania State U.University Park (Smeal) * 3.8
Purdue Univ.West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)* 3.8
University of Arizona (Eller) * 3.8
Univ. of MarylandCollege Park (Smith) * 3.8 </li>
<li> Arizona State University (Carey) * 3.7
Babson College (MA) 3.7
Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC) 3.7
Michigan State University (Broad) * 3.7
University of Notre Dame (IN) 3.7
University of Washington * 3.7 </li>
<li> Boston College (Carroll) 3.6
Case Western Reserve Univ. (Weatherhead) (OH) 3.6
Texas A&M Univ.College Station (Mays) * 3.6
University of Florida (Warrington) * 3.6
University of Georgia (Terry) * 3.6
Wake Forest University (Calloway) (NC) 3.6 </li>
<li> Georgia Institute of Technology * 3.5
University of Iowa (Tippie) * 3.5 </li>
<li> Boston University 3.4
Brigham Young Univ.Provo (Marriott) (UT) 3.4
Southern Methodist University (Cox) (TX) 3.4
University of ColoradoBoulder * 3.4
Virginia Tech (Pamplin) * 3.4 </li>
<li> Bentley College (MA) 3.3
Florida State University * 3.3
George Washington University (DC) 3.3
Georgia State University (Robinson) * 3.3
Syracuse University (Whitman) (NY) 3.3
University of Arkansas (Walton) * 3.3
University of Pittsburgh * 3.3
Univ. of South CarolinaColumbia (Moore) * 3.3
University of Tennessee * 3.3 </li>
<li> Auburn University (AL)* 3.2
College of William and Mary (VA)* 3.2
CUNYBaruch College (Zicklin) * 3.2
Miami UniversityOxford (Farmer) (OH)* 3.2
Tulane University (Freeman) (LA) 3.2
University of Kansas * 3.2
Univ. of MissouriColumbia * 3.2
University of Oklahoma (Price) * 3.2
University of Oregon (Lundquist) * 3.2 </li>
<li> Baylor University (Hankamer) (TX) 3.1
Louisiana State U.Baton Rouge (Ourso) * 3.1
Northeastern University (MA) 3.1
Pepperdine University (Graziadio) (CA) 3.1
Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (Lally) (NY) 3.1
Rochester Inst. of Technology (NY) 3.1
University of Alabama (Culverhouse) * 3.1
University of Connecticut * 3.1
University of Kentucky (Gatton) * 3.1
Univ. of MassachusettsAmherst (Isenberg) * 3.1
University of Miami (FL) 3.1
Univ. of NebraskaLincoln * 3.1
University of Utah (Eccles) * 3.1 </li>
<li> Clemson University (SC)* 3.0
Iowa State University * 3.0
North Carolina State U.Raleigh * 3.0
RutgersNew Brunswick (NJ)* 3.0
Santa Clara University (Leavey) (CA) 3.0
Temple University (Fox) (PA)* 3.0
Texas Christian University (Neeley) 3.0
University at BuffaloSUNY * 3.0
University of IllinoisChicago * 3.0
Villanova University (PA) 3.0 </li>
<li> American University (Kogod) (DC) 2.9
Colorado State University * 2.9
DePaul University (IL) 2.9
Fordham University (NY) 2.9
Loyola University Chicago 2.9
Oklahoma State University * 2.9
San Diego State University * 2.9
United States Air Force Acad. (CO)* 2.9
University of AlabamaBirmingham * 2.9
Univ. of CaliforniaRiverside * 2.9
University of Cincinnati * 2.9
University of Denver (Daniels) 2.9
University of Louisville (KY)* 2.9
University of Mississippi * 2.9
University of Richmond (Robins) (VA) 2.9
Washington State University * 2.9 </li>
<li> Drexel University (LeBow) (PA) 2.8
George Mason University (VA)* 2.8
James Madison University (VA)* 2.8
Kansas State University * 2.8
Lehigh University (PA) 2.8
Loyola Marymount University (CA) 2.8
Marquette University (WI) 2.8
Ohio University * 2.8
Seton Hall University (Stillman) (NJ) 2.8
St. Louis University 2.8
Texas Tech University (Rawls) * 2.8
University of Delaware * 2.8
University of Houston (Bauer) * 2.8
U. of North CarolinaCharlotte (Belk) * 2.8
University of San Diego 2.8
University of TexasDallas * 2.8
Univ. of WisconsinMilwaukee * 2.8 </li>
<li> California State U.Los Angeles * 2.7
Cal PolySan Luis Obispo * 2.7
Oregon State University * 2.7
RutgersNewark (NJ)* 2.7
Univ. of Colo.Colorado Springs * 2.7
University of Memphis (Fogelman) * 2.7
Univ. of MissouriKansas City (Bloch) * 2.7
University of New Mexico (Anderson) * 2.7
University of Northern Colorado (Monfort) * 2.7
University of San Francisco (McLaren) 2.7
University of TexasArlington * 2.7
U. of Colo.Denver and Health Sci. Center * 2.7
Washington and Lee University (VA) 2.7 </li>
<li> Ball State University (IN)* 2.6
Creighton University (NE) 2.6
Hofstra University (Zarb) (NY) 2.6
Kennesaw State University (Coles) (GA)* 2.6
Kent State University (OH)* 2.6
Loyola College in Maryland (Sellinger) 2.6
Mississippi State University * 2.6
RutgersCamden (NJ)* 2.6
San Jose State University (CA)* 2.6
Seattle University (Albers) 2.6
Southern Illinois U.Carbondale * 2.6
St. John's University (NY) 2.6
SUNYAlbany * 2.6
SUNYBinghamton * 2.6
University of Central Florida * 2.6
Univ. of MassachusettsDartmouth (Charlton) * 2.6
University of Rhode Island * 2.6
University of South Florida * 2.6
University of Tulsa (OK) 2.6
Virginia Commonwealth University * 2.6
West Virginia University * 2.6 </li>
<li> Arizona State University West * 2.5
Bowling Green State University (OH)* 2.5
Bradley University (Foster) (IL) 2.5
Calif. State Poly. Univ.Pomona * 2.5
California State U.Fullerton * 2.5
Florida International University * 2.5
Gonzaga University (WA) 2.5
Howard University (DC) 2.5
Indiana U.-Purdue U.Fort Wayne * 2.5
Northern Illinois University * 2.5
Pace University (Lubin) (NY) 2.5
Stetson University (FL) 2.5
St. Joseph's University (Haub) (PA) 2.5
Trinity University (TX) 2.5
United States Coast Guard Acad. (CT)* 2.5
University of AlabamaHuntsville * 2.5
University of Dayton (OH) 2.5
University of HawaiiManoa * 2.5
University of Idaho * 2.5
University of MaineOrono * 2.5
Univ. of MassachusettsBoston * 2.5
University of MinnesotaDuluth * 2.5
Univ. of MissouriSt. Louis * 2.5
University of Montana * 2.5
University of NebraskaOmaha * 2.5
University of NevadaLas Vegas * 2.5
University of New Hampshire (Whittemore) * 2.5
U. of North CarolinaGreensboro (Bryan) * 2.5
University of North Texas * 2.5
University of Vermont * 2.5
University of Wyoming * 2.5
Utah State University * 2.5
Wichita State University (Barton) (KS)* 2.5
Xavier University (Williams) (OH) 2.5 </li>
<li>denotes a public school. </li>
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<p>I will always maintain that these rankings are stupid, and mean very little in the real world. Most school administrators pay absolutely no attention to them except for marketing purposes. It's a false market maker... it's ironic how people, who are going to be educated (thus are assumably bright enough to see the context of reality) by a certain institution, are having the wool pulled over their eyes so the school can charge a premium for its tuition based on this controversial rating system. Seriously, LOL.</p>
<p>um.. actually rankings matter to an extent. </p>
<p>it really depends on what your goals are; if you aspire to be an ibanker, then go to the more prestigious/recruited school. Employers won't know nor care what the exact ranking of your school is but they do have a general idea. They know that wharton is #1, stern, haas, kenan-flager, marshall etc are in the top tier. Will they know the difference between University of Montana and Iowa State University ? probably not even though they are technically about 80 spots apart.</p>
<p>hobo, no... they don't... I guess one industry or two may dwell on them, but the quality of education received from so and so institution is not found in its ranking. And the difference between #1 and #30 is awfully subjective, especially in these peer assessment rankings. The real #1 school in the world is TSOHK, whose colors are black and blue.</p>
<p>okay, then name some industries where prestige doesn't matter. My old school is not respected at all, it lies in the 80's in overall and business and let me tell you, the recruiting here is pretty bad. The career fair is literally crawling with local small firms and crappy sales positions. Like i said, prestige matters to an extent and it all matters what you want to do. If i wanted to do accounting, than i would stay at my old school because accounting is pretty much universal and despite the low ranking 3/4 big four firms recruit the top (3.5+) students. Even in accounting, prestige does matter. I know many kids that have been recruited at more prestigious schools wiht lower (3.1, 3.2) gpa's based on the fact that the school is well respected and tough.</p>
<p>oh and btw, the difference between 1 and 30 is huge, 30 and 100 not so much.</p>
<p>prestige is a relative word... in my state, Utah, the schools that are recruited are well known in Utah... but according the USNWR rankings, they shouldn't be well known. Companies recruit at the University of Utah, Westminster College, BYU, and Utah State pretty regularly, and they're rather large/well known firms. I think location has more to do with it than prestige, for most jobs.</p>
<p>To be correct, rankings do not matter at all. Employers' perceptions of schools, however, usually do (although it varies).</p>
<p>I can't picture a single recruiter sitting in his or her office with a copy of this year's USNWR. Recruiting patterns do not change per rankings--target schools are based upon what the recruiter/partner/manager believes about local schools and whether or not they are an alumnus. No one reads rankings aside from high school students and higher education employees--I can promise you that.</p>
<p>even though recruiters dont look up rankings, there is still a lot of people do, so when a ranking is popular, like US news, a certain amount of people will believe in the ranking wholly or partially, and then few years after a school ranks high in USnews, it will slowly become a general idea on some extent, and at last recruiters will be influence by the general idea, and by USNWR indirectly</p>
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<p>Except that schools rarely make large jumps in the rankings, so eventually the "underdogs" will catch up to higher ranked schools just by producing productive graduates who help businesses achieve their goals, and then rankings become stale and obsolete.... In the business school world, it's far more important to produce productive employees who can immediately make an impact, than to get a nice ranking on USNWR--peer assessment, btw, is done by college deans--professionals who are far removed from the cutthroat, ever changing corporate environment--which further disqualifies the business rankings. I think ryanbis hit it on the head when he pointed out that what recruiters believe about local schools matters more than rankings, and especially if the recruiter is an alumnus of said school.</p>
<p>i thought only wharton and cornell AEM were the only undergrad business program..how can those ranking be for UNDERGRADS in business? can someone clarify this? thanks</p>
<p>but.... i do agree liangshengtm to a point.... look at Wash U in st louis... there has been speculation that they deliberately try to manipulate their own rankings to help them move up on the list.... now seeing that many ppl on this site look for things like "top 20 schools"... the fact that Wash U is ranked soo high will "Attract" the "productive employees who can immediately make an impact".... soo indirectly, the best Studetns are attracted to these highly rated schools which will in turn "Help" the schools reputation out in the business/ real world... which will later help the schools reputation/"Employers' perceptions of schools" as ryanbis previously posted. So do rankings matter when trying to get a job... no not really... but will they influence the student population who decides to attend which will later influence the schools perception, Id say, Of course..</p>
<p>einnoc07: Wharton and Cornell's AEM are the only two undergraduate business program IN THE IVY LEAGUE. All of the aforementioned schools have undergraduate business programs.</p>
<p>No, they don't have a direct relationship with attracting the best recruiters, but it is what's behind the numbers and what those numbers perpetuate that keeps the recruiters, among other things, coming. As previously said, ranking attract top tier students, who are thus some of the "most productive employees." These students--or a good percentage of them--get great jobs and hopefully send funds back to their alma mater, thus increasing resources to attract top recruiters, facilities, etc--all of which contribute to an excpetional education. They will also eventually (hopefully) be the ones in gatekeeper positions which will continue the recruiting relationship, etc. You've also got to keep in mind networking opportunities at top institutions are much better: think the one's that house MBA's and BBA's. Rankings and recruiter relationships matter MORE to those pursuing their MBA's. Those at Wharton, Stern, Haas, Sloan, Ross, etc. will have much better networking opportunies with some people with great industry experience/connections than those who are attending schools with MBA programs outside the top 30. Albeit this only applies to some schools, it is nonetheless important. Rankings also matter because we live in the type of world where they matter. you can not deny that. Are people obsessed with rankings? YES! Does it influence their decisions? YES! WHY? WHO KNOWS. Some of us are smart enough to look beyond rankings, but most are not. In the end--RANKINGS MATTER!</p>
<p>I don't agree with the logic that academic success=productive business people. There are many very productive/natural business people who don't/won't/haven't cared about the ACT/SAT, or their GPA. I know a guy who never went to college, but while in high school started a car detailing business in his neighborhood... which eventually got him into buying cheap cars, detailing them, and selling them for a lot more (because a clean car runs better--it's all perception and he noticed this). Well, to make a long story short, the guy now owns a massive used car business that does $50M + in annual revenue and has three locations. You see, just because you know how to do well on standardized tests and in classroom settings does not mean you will be a productive business person... So to say that highly ranked schools attract the "best business students" is mostly true in an academic sense, and not so much a business sense.</p>
<p>Ok, agreed. There are most certainly two types of business people: those you are referring to and those more "academic" business professionals you would see at a top school. You aren't going to see your friend doing valuation models, etc (not that it matters!) like you would some of the top business students. Business most certainly has two dimensions and success can be found in both. But wouldn't everyone want to be your friend rather than the 4.0 Wharton Grad anyway?</p>