New 3.0 to 3.3 (GPA) Parents Thread

<p>S is looking at Cal Lutheran Univ. Last yr. admitted students avg GPA B+, SAT 1010-1200 in cr and math and act 22-27. Chapman is also on the list. While I think these two schools may be too close to home, he’s doesn’t want to venture far for now. A friend’s D attends Marist and absolutely loves it. She was a B+ student w/good test scores.</p>

<p>Also, on paper, Univ of Scranton looks like a match for B/B+ kids. Haven’t seen it, though.</p>

<p>Lafalum, it is and I have heard very good things about Scranton.</p>

<p>Just looked up Stonehill and U Scranton on our Naviance. (Again, both too small for my son, but just to add perspective/help others.)</p>

<p>From our school, the kids accepted at Stonehill all had about a 3.5 GPA. Below the 3.4, only those kids with SATs above 1150/1800 were accepted. (Only three kids though.) All five kids that applied to Scranton were accepted; and their GPAs ranged from 2.5 to 3.0 with SATs in the 1050/1500 range. So Scranton seems a bit easier to get into, at least from our school. (Of course, that could be based on geography…maybe a kid from CT is more desirable in PA than in MA.)</p>

<p>Anyone have Naviance that can look up admissions at some of the big publics for me, like UConn, UMaryland, and UMass?</p>

<p>Can anyone advise/suggest where a Calif student who fits the profile of this (great) thread should apply in-state? I don’t think a large public is the best place for my S, and although he’s now only a HS freshman, I can tell he’s going to be one of those kids who scores well on the SAT/ACT but have a not-so-hot GPA (classic underachiever). So if the UC’s are out, and maybe even the CSU’s too, where could he get in? Thanks in advance.</p>

<p>Jeremysmom, most CSU’s won’t be out, and there are plenty to look at: Humboldt, Sonoma, Pomona, Monterey Bay, and lots more. Also, there are UC Riverside and UC Merced.</p>

<p>Sorry, editing because I missed the part about large being a concern. Merced is small, but Riverside is kind of big. On the other hand, Riverside has freshman learning communities to help bring about a smaller-school feel.</p>

<p>Other ideas for private colleges besides Cal Lutheran and Chapman that were mentioned above: University of Redlands, University of the Pacific, University of San Diego, Whittier, University of San Francisco.</p>

<p>Well, this thread has been a revelation for me; we may just amp things up a notch (or a half?). It’s been rough going for a couple years with DS. There’s never been any doubt that he’s smart, but there have been more than a few not-working-up-to-his-potential/lazy labels and his spirit has been battered a bit. For the most part, I’ve been supportive, but half of his teachers have been less than encouraging and his dad has been pretty disgusted with him vis a vis school. So, thanks for the unusually pleasant reality check. :)</p>

<p>Jeremysmom, CSU Channel Islands is quite new but has a good reputation in the area and a lovely campus with a sweet location, particularly if your son is a hiker or enjoys any ocean activities. Also, a friend’s son (whose UC GPA was 3.2) got turned down by all the UC’s last year so he went to SB City College, lived with a roommate in an apartment, got all A’s first semester, and was accepted as a transfer to UCD. That seems like a popular route for California students, who are fortunate to have a quality community college system that is a well-oiled machine for entre to the UC system.</p>

<p>Friend’s daughter, underperformer in HS, did well at U of Scranton.</p>

<p>Monmouth in New Jersey…Probably more selective now than when I got a great merit award years ago…pretty school, near the beach in NJ. Dorm space is still a problem I hear.</p>

<p>Its already been mentioned, but my Daughter will be a freshman at Alfred next year. I loved the small, nurturing environment. My daughter was accepted at SUNY Albany, but she has had motivation issues (which we are hoping she has outgrown), but we thing the extra money for the smaller classes etc will be worthwhile.</p>

<p>Alfred is literally in the middle of nowhere. It is definitely not a suitcase college, and is away from many distractions (just in case that has been a problem for your own -3-3.3 student). It has eliminated fraternities, and has excellent dorm facilities.</p>

<p>My D is taking all honors and APs (7 APs by graduation), so her B+ unweighted average is probably a little higher than most of the posters here. On the other hand, she can’t take a standardized test for her life, so her SATs are below many of those posted. She is at a very competitive HS, which means she is barely in the top 50%, and I feel right at home in this thread.</p>

<p>Queen’s Mom…as the OP of this thread, I’d like to limit it to parents of students who are 3.0 to 3.3 weighted. There are plenty of other thread for kids taking “all honors and 7 APs by graduation”. While it’s nice that you feel at home, I don’t feel this is the appropriate thread for you as we are dealing with very different issues. </p>

<p>Frankly, we are all struggling with finding the best situation for our wonderful children who are not taking gobs of honors or AP classes. Thus, hearing that your child is taking “all honors and 7 APs” is not really something we are into at this point, and I really have to wonder why you would even want to mention that on this thread.</p>

<p>I tried to find a nicer way to say the above but probably didn’t do a great job, so all I can say is please respect the intent of this thread.</p>

<p>P.S. In the B+ Thread, you stated the following:</p>

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<p>Please reread my original post again, where I asked that those who had kids with 4.0 averages find another thread.</p>

<p>Sorry if i’m breaking any rules
But i’m an 11th grader, and I just want to say i’m loving reading this thread
It seems like us with low 3.0’s are finding it harder and harder to compete with much more competitive students, so this thread is a breath of fresh air
:)</p>

<p>On the West Coast, University of Oregon might be an option for your kids. Eugene is a great college town. Criteria for OOS scholarship is a bit higher than some of your students (3.6), but overall the tuition is not as high as many OOS schools. And, if your gpa is over a a 3.0 test scores are not a criteria for admission.</p>

<p>Jeremysmom, CSU Monterey Bay would be well in range for a B+ student (I think). It’s not a beautiful campus, but it’s in a gorgeous area. It’d be perfect for an outdoorsy kid who likes to ride bikes, hike or sea kayak. With only 4000 students, it should be small enough to provide a personal feel for your son.</p>

<p>I’m hoping for a CSU for my son who MAY hit 600/00 on SAT’s, but will only hit a 3.2 if they count Bible and Journalism… I will be very happy with a 3.0. He seems to be trying harder then ever, and has only one C, but there are no honors or AP’s in his future. He has fair EC’s (youngest editor and lots of sports kudos), but I don’t think I’m willing to pay private. Do I have to go to the community college thread? ADHD, BTW.</p>

<p>I guess Stonehill has gotten even more selective than I realized. </p>

<p>DD had taken Scranton off her list because she wanted a larger school or a school in a city… perhaps I can convince her to re-consider and take a look at it.</p>

<p>Another small school some may like: Salve Regina in Newport. Gorgeous campus on the ocean amidst (in in some cases IN) the old mansions. Skews fairly heavily female, but it is co-ed. From Salve Regina’s website:
“The average GPA was a 3.25 (B/B+) for our fall of 2008 freshman class… Like most college admission staffs, we recalculate your GPA on a 4.0 scale, taking only college preparatory core academic subjects into consideration… We do give added weight to Honors, A.P., and I.B. courses… Students invited to join the fall 2008 freshman class had an average SAT score of 1100 (out of 1600) and an average ACT score of 25.”</p>

<p>I think my son fit this criteria to a T. I don’t remember his GPA but it was in the low 3’s. He had 1 honors class and 1 AP (Calculus). He did take 3 sciences and 4 yrs of spanish. 1 community college course. His EC’s were nothing special. He did have quite a number of community service hours. He also had a couple of outdoor ed EC that might have made him standout a bit. His test scores were pretty lopsided. He did not even break 500 in the writing section, after a retake and some private tutoring he did end up with a 530 verbal score. His saving grace was a 710 math. All his schools did not use the writing so he had a composite score of 1240. His transcript included 1 D in a core subject for one semester, he did raise it to a B second term but the D made him ineligible to apply to any of the UC’s.
Due to the grades and odd scores we were not able to make a traditional reach, match, safety list. With the writing score of 480 we did not know if he would get in anywhere. Even with the schools saying they did not look at the writing score.
Our plan was to apply to the schools as early as possible. Many of his choices offered an EA option. One had rolling admissions and the application came out in July.</p>

<p>University of Northern Arizona- Rolling. NO essay, large selection of majors. Clear guidelines for admissions. I think he was admitted in early Oct. At that point we knew he had at least one option. Out of state tuition is reasonable. NAU is also part of the Western Tuition Exchange. My son was offered an out of state student scholarship. This school was extremely affordable
For Ca residents- Ca State Channel Islands, Monterey Bay, Chico, Humboalt.
My son to our shock was not admitted to Sonoma State-they were the one Cal State that picked up on the D in a core requirement. Channel Islands and Humbolt were willing to overlook it.
I have also seen a couple of low B students get into Cal Poly San Luis Obispo in non competitive majors. Same with UC Santa Cruz.
Other schools he applied and was admitted=
University of Redlands- with aid
Univ of Puget Sound- no merit award
Willamette-applied EA but was asked to send mid term grades before decision would be made. No merit aid. I do know other B students who did not get into Willamette.
McDaniels- with merit aid
Warren Wilson
Univ of the Pacific-with merit aid. UOP can be a good option for a student who wants a small university but not a liberal arts college. It is about 5000 students. The town of Stockton is a bit bleak but the campus is beautiful. They also offer engineering and have a music school. I don’t know if a 3.0-3.3 student who wanted engineering or business would get in. The dental program and pharmacy school would be out of reach for this level of student. No football team but they have a competitive basketball and volleyball team.
Other schools I know from other B students-
Ca- Concordia, Cal Lutheran, St Mary’s, Dominion
Oregon- Linfield
Washington- Western Wash, Seattle Pacific</p>

<p>In my son’s case I think a major factor in his results was that he was a male applying to schools with large female populations. Also for most of his school’s his Math score was way above their averages.</p>

<p>A Canadian option–University of Victoria in British Columbia. It is a great school in a beautiful city. With the Canadian dollar at $.82US the total expenses run about $20,000US for internationals for everything but transportation. Students from US high schools need to have a minimum unweighted 3.0, but SATS, etc are not needed.</p>

<p>Just a note to say thanks to everyone who offered West Coast suggestions!</p>

<p>Also in the west- a large school option- Arizona State. Have seen many Ca students whose first choice was San Diego State end up at Arizona.</p>