<p>This NYS resident is not offended. I also agree with Kayf that it is absolutely NUTS that New York charges the same tuition at Plattsburgh and Cortland that it does at Geneseo or Binghamton. I can’t think of any other state that charges the same base rate at one of its second or third tier “directional” universities that it does at its flagship or “honors college.” Perhaps another CCer can, however; I’m not going to place any bets on this one.</p>
<p>Fendrock…thanks for posting that info! </p>
<p>Someone told me today we should also be looking into Syracuse. I know it’s private…any thoughts on difficulty of admission?</p>
<p>RTR, Read my post #67. I brought up Syracuse with your son in mind. One more thing, just be sure that financially it will feasible for your family.</p>
<p>fendrock, I am not sure if the UF data is accurate…maybe you meant FSU? </p>
<p>a 1070 is in in the bottom 25% of UF’s SAT scores (their average SAT is around 1280) and the average GPA for UF enrolled students is a 4.0 in core courses only (Honors = 0.5+ and AP = 1.0+). Unless the student has taken only AP classes throughout all of HS, that GPA is way too low for UF,</p>
<p>Our Naviance stats (largish suburban high school in a fairly affluent town in northern NJ, numbers given are weighted GPA and SAT based on the old style 1600). These are all popular schools, so the number of applicants was over 100 for each.</p>
<p>Penn State Main Campus - about 2/3 to 3/4 of applicants accepted. Looks like a done deal for weighted GPA > 3.8, between 3.4 and 3.8 chances are good if SAT > 1150. Below 3.4 the outlook is not so good. There are a fair number of admits, however (some student athletes I am guessing) with GPA under 3 and SAT scores all over the lot. Average admits are 3.72/1255</p>
<p>U Maryland - more than 3/4 accepted. GPA > 3.9 all got in, between about 3.5 and 3.9 all with SAT > 1250 got in, about half and half with SAT between 1050 and 1250 and GPA between 3.5 and 3.9. Below 3.5, the outlook was not good unless SAT was > 1300. They took a chance on one kid with a 2.9/1550. Average admits are 3.88/1294</p>
<p>U Mass - over 3/4 accepted. Pretty cut and dried with virtually all with GPA > 3.2 accepted, half and half between 3.0 and 3.2 and very few below 3.0. SAT scores only weakly correlated with decisions. Average admits are 3.53/1156 </p>
<p>U Conn - 2/3 to 3/4 accepted. Again, pretty cut and dried with nearly all above 3.6 accepted, half and half between 3.4 and 3.6 and almost none below 3.4. Again, SAT scores did not seem to have a strong influence. Average admits are 3.75/1241</p>
<p>northeast mom…just saw that post…thank you! Yes, the financial piece is daunting and I’m getting different advice on either end…some folks say don’t worry about it for now and see what they offer (but do they ever really offer anything?) and other folks say forget about it…</p>
<p>Bassdad…thanks for looking up all those numbers.</p>
<p>You have to wonder if the geography of the applying student plays any role at all in these big schools.</p>
<p>Well, I can tell you that I have seen packages on this board over the years, and I know that we could not afford Syracuse, but I know other families who are able to afford Syracuse. Sorry, that I am not of much help. You might want to look at broad based statistics to evaluate whether Syracuse would work for you:
[Student</a> Aid on the Web](<a href=“http://studentaid2.ed.gov/gotocollege/campustour/undergraduate/225/Syracuse_University/Syracuse_University4.html]Student”>http://studentaid2.ed.gov/gotocollege/campustour/undergraduate/225/Syracuse_University/Syracuse_University4.html)</p>
<p>Naviance shows that only five students from our high school applied to Florida State during this time period. All were rejected, the highest stats being a 3.3 GPA (approx)/1130 SAT.</p>
<p>The number of applicants to Univ of Florida was also very low (also only 5). Three were rejected (highest rejected stats 3.35/1240) and two were accepted (highest accepted stats were 3.38/1200 for an early action candidate).</p>
<p>Syracuse, with a significant number of applicants, had a median GPA of 3.27 and 1280 SAT for accepted students.</p>
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<p>That was clearly an athlete. That wouldn’t get you in state, summer session at UF.</p>
<p>^^^^ 3.08/1070 was the mean for accepted students, which in this particular case was based on the stats of only two students.</p>
<p>Ok, so two recruited athletes.</p>
<p>^^ I have to agree. You won’t find any students at UF with those stats unless they’re playing basketball or football.</p>
<p>I stumbled upon CC while searching colleges for older S with a 3.9 GPA who got into all schools he applied to and is very happy at the university he chose. Younger S has a 3.0 GPA, but much better EC’s than older S. This thread is a breath of fresh air. I’m so tired of hearing the whining about less than 2100 on the SAT’s and whether or not 6AP’s is enough, or whether a 4.0 is high enough!</p>
<p>I’ve seen Naviance mentioned a few times. In my opinion, it is a flawed system. It averages acceptances over the past few years and includes athletes in it’s GPA average. Also, since I have both the 2006 and 2009 US News College books, the GPA for many schools have risen between .2 and .4 since 2006. We recently visited UMASS Amherst and asked the admissions counselor why the average GPA has risen from a 3.0 to a 3.5 in the past three years. She said that due to a higher volume of applications they’ve decided to become more selective. I then asked her where that leaves the 3.0 - 3.2 student - out in the cold. She responded “Yes, I guess so.” This is happening at many schools, particularly in state schools. I’m sure S will find a school that he will be happy to attend, but it is very frustrated that the entrance requirements keep going up every year.</p>
<p>Schools we’ve looked at that impressed us were York, West Chester, Kutztown (all in-state PA), Hofstra, Univ of RI and West Virginia. Any other ideas in the Northeast?</p>
<p>To add to the northeast colleges, my friends daughter also got into Sacred Heart. She received $$ at all the schools, but I don’t know how much was merit verses FA. </p>
<p>MOM60- I don’t know if he can retake his sophomore english class. I should have fought harder, but his teacher wanted to fail him and I wanted to make sure that he at least got credit. He was too sick at that time to deal with summer school. I have to check out the transcripts to see if he has a D for the year. He has a 504 so I probably could have battled it out. </p>
<p>My son really liked McDaniel and University of Mary washington. Any chance either of these schools will forgive his D in English? I’m also checking out High Point and Coastal Carolina. His GC tells me that these schools are “beneath him”. I’m thinking that he’s lucky to get accepted.</p>
<p>Another school in NE that is suppose top have a nice campus is Keane Sate, and my friend’s daughter went to Nichols and is now on her way to law school.</p>
<p>Michone, scan thru the thread - there are big shout-outs for Scranton, and a few others.</p>
<p>Warriorboy, are talking about Keene State in NH? That school seems to be strong in music. I know someone whose D goes there. The biggest problem that I am aware of is that there is no convenient way for her to get home (NJ) without a car. She does not have a car, but btn. knowing somone from her town who attends with a car (there were 2 years that they were both at Keene) and her parents going in both directions to pick her up they managed. The school is close to 5 hours from her home, so for her mother that is 10 hours in the car RT.</p>
<p>Does your son like foreign language bc C of WM requires 2 years of it (I believe)?</p>
<p>HP does take a lot of C students from what I can tell and they do gap quite a bit.</p>
<p>Sacred Heart is another very good private school option if you like a small school.</p>
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<p>That is only true if the school weights grades.</p>
<p>I know a kid who took many honors classes, and probably some APs, who was ranked at or a tick below the 50% point at our HS with some kind of a B average. (The HS doesn’t officially rank, but his parents ultimately found out that the GC revealed his rank in her rec.) He was a varsity athlete in several sports, a a great kid.</p>
<p>He was rejected from every school to which he applied, including Fairfield U, Drew, and a number of others in that range where one would have thought he would be accepted. He eventually applied to Eckerd, which was on the list of schools that still had space available, and was accepted. He did very well, and has now graduated. His father recently told me that he found that freshman year at Eckerd was largely a repeat of his senior year in honors classes at the HS (which may have had something to do with his course selection), but that it was good for him to find himself at the top of the academic heap for a change.</p>
<p>northeastmom - I did mean Keene State in NH, wasn’t sure how to spell it. </p>
<p>The finances are a concern but getting into a decent school is my main concern at this point. I really don’t like our state schools except for UCONN and my son really prefers a smaller school. </p>
<p>I’m working on backing off to some degree because sometimes I am just so disappointed that he is performing so far below his ability. Deep down I know that it will eventually all work out, but the journey is tough.</p>
<p>Kinda off topic - My son with his 3.1 GPA is in the top 30% of his class. It blows my mind that 70% of the kids have lower grades than he does…</p>
<p>warrior, hopefully the tough grading at your son’s hs will be taken into consideration.</p>