<p>So, for my senior year, a teacher that I have been on absolutely horrible terms with ( she references jesus and christian organizations in her class and it makes me mad) is probably becoming the new counselor. Is she the one who is going to be writing my rec or can I ask my old counselor to do it? She has been my counselor for most of my high school career. I'm not trying to sound bigoted with the whole christan reference, but there's just this whole atmosphere that her class exudes because of what she says and does. She also plays favorites and if you aren't one of her "in" kids, she's a ****** to you.</p>
<p>Well you might be able to get your old college counselor to write a recommendation if you have a justifiable reason. However there is a good chance that your new counselor will write it.
I never knew my college counselor persionally and everything seemed to work out for the best.</p>
<p>That’s the problem. I’ve had this teacher for 2 years, and I’m totally screwed if she has to write my rec. A lot of other kids will probably get negative recs too while her favorites will get good ones.</p>
<p>Can’t you get a teacher to write your rec?</p>
<p>csokane, your conscience condemns your behavior. That is a good sign. Meanwhile, the fact that you mistreated anyone, whether Christian or not, is repugnant and worthy of harsh discipline. You deserve what you get, pal. But, fortunately for you, if she is a solid follower of Jesus, she will be forgiving through and through. Meaning, you are fortunate that you did not pick on a non-Christian who would have nailed you! Most likely, her Christianity will let your mistreatment of another human off the hook. Let this be a testimony to why being a true follower of Jesus is a great thing . . . for everyone!</p>
<p>Yup, being brainwashed is wonderful isn’t it! That way all the other brainwashed people don’t get mad at you when you say that perhaps they shouldn’t try to brainwash you.</p>
<p>I find evangelical Christianity repulsive as well, so I can understand where you’re coming from. Counselor recs only count for so much, but if she really dislikes you as much as you say she does, then her rec will damage your application a small amount.</p>
<p>I would venture to say that a negative recommendation (as opposed to simply one that is “less positive”) would actually really hurt an application.</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids: Don’t I have to have a counselor rec for colleges? This teacher is going to be my counselor come senior year.</p>
<p>@TrueLove: What are you talking about? She’s the one who creates a religiuos atmosphere in a public institution. Isn’t that a bit wrong considering not everyone is of the same faith?</p>
<p>@Drought: How much would a small amount be?</p>
<p>@Nick567: Yeah that really has me worried.</p>
<p>Could I get my counselor rec at the end of junior year or during the summer from my old counselor?</p>
<p>It’ll be the equivalent of taking 50 points off of your SAT and .05 points off of your GPA.</p>
<p>Sarcasm aside, it’s impossible for any of us to tell exactly how much a “bad” recommendation will hurt. If he’s ambivalent towards you, then a “blah” recommendation won’t hurt too awfully much. A truly negative recommendation may hurt you in some places, but other schools may overlook her obvious favoritism. If you think she’ll respond to you, you could try to confront her with your concerns, although I wouldn’t necessarily recommend this.</p>
<p>You had my hopes up until I read the “Sarcasm aside”.</p>
<p>Don’t I have to have a counselor rec for colleges? This teacher is going to be my counselor come senior year.</p>
<p>Not always…and many schools don’t even ask for ANY recs at all.</p>
<p>Some schools ask for a rec from a math or science or English teacher of YOUR choice.</p>
<p>Often the counselor just does the “counselor report”…which is kind of a “fill in the blank” kind of thing.</p>
<p>If you’re that worried, be sure to include some schools that don’t require ANY recs at all. There are many schools admit by stats only…no essays and/or no recs.</p>
<p>Ah gotcha. A big thing is that my ED school and my #1 choice does require one (and no it’s not a mega-reach school like HYPS).</p>
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<p>I would venture to say that if she writes a truly horrible recommendation, they’ll discount the rec, as it won’t be particularly educational. But if she’s savvy and writes a nuanced, negative rec, you’re in trouble. Get your old counselor if you can. It makes sense for her to write it anyway, since she knows you better, at least in the capacity of a counselor.</p>
<p>“What are you talking about? She’s the one who creates a religiuos atmosphere in a public institution. Isn’t that a bit wrong considering not everyone is of the same faith?”</p>
<p>csokane, I wouldn’t care what religion is presented, as long as it represented God’s love. What in heavens name could be wrong with a sweet environment? Why is it that you are allowed your secular humanistic religion to prevail in education and not other religious views? Why should those who are religious tolerate your secularist mindset, while you do not tolerate the religious? </p>
<p>Face it. You do not like Christianity because it makes you feel guilty living by your own selfish standards. Rebels are always against rules that God enacts, because they want to be God, to not answer to anyone. It is an age-old issue. You are not angry at your teacher. You are angry at Jesus, the very one who gave all His love to you. How ironic. Know that He will not be mocked. </p>
<p>@Mt. 7:1 – Obviously you don’t understand this Scripture. csokane is reaping what he sowed–trouble. But, like I said, if she is a real Christian, she will have forgiven him. He will not need to worry. Meanwhile, let this be a lesson to treat people properly. God has actually set her to become your counselor to teach you to love everyone. I am posting because He is using me to help open your eyes to His loving encouragement to not just be tolerant, but to genuinely care about others.</p>
<p>Ok, what you just said is one thing (if I was to buy into religious craziness), but just calling someone repugnant, with no knowledge of the circumstance, is exactly what the scripture is warding against.</p>
<p>@glassesarechic: I see what you’re saying. I’ll see if colleges will accept my old counselor’s rec.</p>
<p>@TrueLove: I do tolerate the religious mindset. I don’t hate any religions, and I believe everyone is entitled to their belief. But, when you take on the responsibility of teacher and face groups of students who are all from different faiths and backgrounds, it’s a bit wrong to set up an atmosphere emphasizing one religion. There needs to be an overriding neutrality in a school, and I’m not asking religious people to tolerate or judge my secular mindset. I just ask that a topic like that be kept out of school. See, it’d be different if I walked into a church and started douching it up, but I’m not doing that.
About the whole Christianity making me feel bad thing, Christians are by no means perfect, all caring, all loving people. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not going to judge anyone based on faith, and some of my best friends are Christians. However, you belonging to that specific religion doesn’t place you on a moral pedestal over me. </p>
<p>@0987654321: Thank you.</p>
<p>Hey 09, you think Jesus did not judge? You bet He did. But He did it to help us. It was not about irritating/hurting others. The term is more about being critical, to tear apart, when your heart is not for someone. If, for instance, I am a gang banger, I would hope you cared enough to tell me to stop taunting others, otherwise I will be murdered. Meanwhile, the gang banger might say, “Quit judging me just because I hurt people for my entertainment.” If you did not confront or “judge” to help him think straight about disrupting other people’s lives, then the gang banger may eventually get hurt by those he was irritating. This example is similar to you irritating your teacher. --Peace out–</p>
<p>How is gang banging someone comparable to this? I honestly can’t tell if you’re a real person or a ■■■■■ now.</p>