New Forbes Ranking of Wisconsin Undergraduate Schools

<p>UC grants credit for all College Board Advanced Placement tests on which a student scores 3 or higher. The credit toward graduation may get specific subject credit and/or credit toward general education/breadth requirements, as determined by evaluators at each campus.</p>

<p>Berkeley and UCLA accepts “3”. Oh well maybe there are not top colleges in your eyes.</p>

<p>**i hope you are leading a happy life. People who complain too much usually don’t :)</p>

<p>So they do, and I’m guessing it’s for the same reason UW does: to make it easier, in the face of large student bodies and overcrowded classes, to get students out the door in four years.</p>

<p>University of Wisconsin – Madison</p>

<p>30,600 undergrads; 12,000 grad; The Flag Ship of Wisconsin</p>

<p>We live in suburban Milwaukee and my children attend (past and present) a large public high school with a graduating class of 560. The HS is known for having the second highest ACT scores for public schools in the state and more than 90% of their graduates go to college. Out the 560 graduates more than 200 apply to Madison and this last year only 27 were accepted. There is really no close second for state schools in Wisconsin. My business actively recruits Actuarial students from Madison and their graduates tend to be viewed as bright and motivated. People in Wisconsin talk of Madison like people on the east coast talk about Harvard, Princeton and Yale but what are the facts?</p>

<p>Less than 50% of UW Madison students graduate in four years. Princeton Review lists them favorably for their library, school newspaper, and undergrad entrepreneurial business program but also ranks them high in top ten for being LGBT friendly, and having lots of beer and hard liquor. This year they failed to make the top 10 for Party Schools coming in at number 14. I meet many a refined adult who are alumni of Madison and more often than not, they have a drinking story or two highlighting their college career. Abortions are state funded and available on campus; “the only” infant stem cell research funded by government dollars is at Madison, and if you go to one of their home football games a tradition is to chant loud and clear obscenities including the “F” word back and forth with great pride. Liberal – yes! Yet they are known for research innovation, medical discovery, business best practices, and political engagements (having a real voice) that help shape America. While politically to the left, we know some very conservative and Christian people that go to and attend UW Madison with pride.</p>

<p>My opinion it takes a very special student to survive and thrive in their environment. It would be easy to get lost, easy to fail, and easy to walk away from Christian values. The faculty to student ratio is 17 to 1 and will increase to 20 to 1 due to budget cuts. Wheaton is at 10 to 1 and Vanderbilt is at 7 to 1. Though in the eye of the beholder whether good or bad only about 15 to 20% of UW Madison graduates ever get a masters degree compared to over 70% of Wheaton grads. It is hard to see the magic that holds Madison in such high regard. And, while their sports are awesome in last years Rose Bowl I supported TCU(the winner) which was viewed a being from the lowly Mountain West Conference and not worthy of the Big 10. Sadly, that same attitude is view that holds Madison in such high regard academically with blinders to the facts of a quality education.</p>

<p>“State funded abortions” Really? Please tell us how this occurs? And the only place that performs infant stem cell research? Source please.</p>

<p>Four year grad rates, while too low are at between 52% and 54% and have been rising, the last time I looked. </p>

<p>% of undergrads getting grad degrees from a U. with 28k plus undergrads will be low compared to small schools like Wheaton. </p>

<p>IMO good thing UW was rated highly for LGBT friendliness. The Chi Tribune just ran an article quoting the same Princeton review survey with Wheaton being the least friendly. When interviewed Wheaton officials sounded completely unapologetic.</p>

<p>“Christian values”??? Those who prescribe to that are no better nor worse than the rest of the population. The values likely dubbed “Christian” are more universal. Please don’t try to make it seem as though belonging to any church makes indivduals better-it doesn’t. btw- remember Christ was in favor of drinking- he did provide more wine at the wedding feast at Cana per the New Testament.</p>

<p>Also several threads have addressed reasons students spend more than 4 years at UW.</p>

<p>President Bush at the time he signed an Executive Order against Federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research the Executive Order also allowed existing stem cell chains (harvested from fetuses) to remain and are located at the U/W Madison. It is now illegal for government funding to be used to create or harvest from fetuses. Embryonic stem cells from discarded invitro procedures still take place.</p>

<p>Source the University of Wisconsin web-site:
The University of Wisconsin-Madison is a world leader in stem cell research and regenerative medicine. Research is conducted across many disciplines and Wisconsin scientists continue to advance our understanding in this field through groundbreaking studies of adult, fetal, embryonic and induced stem cells.
Fact sheets
• What are stem cells? (243K PDF)
• Questions about embryonic stem cells? (90K PDF)
• How are stem cells used? (224K PDF)
• What are induced pluripotent stem cells? (227K PDF)
• What is regenerative medicine? (207K PDF)
• Stem cell ethics fact sheet (347K PDF)</p>

<p>As for Abortion I am wrong - It was recommended and then pulled back. See articles below.
Board gives its OK for second-trimester abortions at UW-owned surgery center
By Erica Perez, Journal Sentinel, Inc
Feb. 4, 2009
The University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics Authority Board voted 11-3 Wednesday in favor of a plan to offer second-trimester abortions at a UW-owned surgery center.
The final decision on the proposed clinic will be made by the Madison Surgery Center board of directors within the next week or so.
The Madison Surgery Center, owned by UW Hospital and Clinics, Meriter Hospital and the UW Medical Foundation, would provide abortion services for women who are 13 to 22 weeks pregnant to help meet demand after a physician who used to perform such abortions in Madison retired late last year.
Dennis Christensen worked at Madison Abortion Clinic, now managed by Planned Parenthood.
“The Roe vs. Wade decision has said that women have a constitutional right to make decisions about their body, and that’s right into the second trimester, and you can’t honor that constitutional right without offering the service,” said David Walsh, a member of the UW Hospital board and chairman of the UW System Board of Regents.
“Since the service isn’t available, you have to step up,” he said.
Under the plan, no state money would pay for the abortions. Insurance or patient fees would cover the cost. Doctors performing the procedures do receive some state pay, but their compensation for the abortions would be private.
Since the news of the plans emerged Jan. 6, opponents have protested the plan, including Pro-Life Wisconsin, Wisconsin Right to Life, the Catholic Diocese of Madison, Madison-based Alliance for Life Ministries, Wisconsin Family Council and Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund.
A letter from Alliance Defense Fund lawyer Matthew S. Bowman said the clinic was in danger of breaking state laws.
One such law prevents state money from being used to pay doctors or clinics to perform abortions. Another prohibits hospitals from forcing employees to participate in abortions against their objections.
The abortions, the letter said, also could support objectionable research on aborted tissue.
Victory: U of Wisconsin confirms late-term abortion scheme cancelled
BY KATHLEEN GILBERT
• Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:40 EST
MADISON, Wisconsin, December 14, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In what is being hailed as a major victory for local pro-lifers, the University of Wisconsin has confirmed that the Madison Surgery Center will not be involved in late-term abortions and will not pursue the plans at any other location at this time.
Led by Pro-Life Wisconsin, local pro-lifers had been battling the late-term abortion scheme, which documents revealed was designed to supply the school with fresh fetal body parts, since January 2009.
“UW’s statement validates what we have suspected for a year,” said Peggy Hamill, state director of Pro-Life Wisconsin. “As 2010 draws to a close, we thank God for concluding this horrifying chapter in the ongoing struggle with UW’s commitment to abortion.”
The saga began when the Madison Surgery Center board voted to allow late-term abortions at a February 2009 meeting. The Madison Surgery Center is a joint partnership between Meriter Hospital, the University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics and the University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation.
Since the late-term abortion plan was announced in January 2009, Pro-Life Wisconsin has held countless prayer vigils, attended by thousands; aired hundreds of pro-life television commercials in the Madison area; tens of thousands of people signed a pro-life petition; and hundreds boycotted the Madison Surgery Center.
“We applaud the pro-life medical staff of the Madison Surgery Center who spoke in public opposition to this plan,” Hamill continued. “Wisconsin already has one late-term abortion facility in Milwaukee, killing viable babies. Wisconsinites oppose dragging our publicly-funded state university even further into the abortion business.”</p>

<p>I seriously question whether this is the correct forum for this discussion. Come on guys!</p>

<p>It all started when someone chose to once again point out UW in rankings, this thread is all about UW- those who don’t want this type of information can skip this thread.</p>

<p>Nice thread hijacking Bear67.</p>